I'm +1 for this.

I see 2 possible implementations:
1) At the class property level, saying that such property is non- 
versionable
2) At the moment we do a save with an internal api to not generate a  
version

I prefer 1).

Thanks
-Vincent

On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:

>
> Yes.. The use case is to use this for storing information that is
> related to a wiki page but that at the same time can be update many  
> many
> times and if we do it would create a huge amount of version and impact
> performance. Not being able to rollback would be a known behavior and
> this would be used for data that we are not interested in history of  
> and
> that many times we could recalculate. In many cases it could be to  
> store
> aggregate information that would be faster to access.
>
> Example:
>
> - last connection time of a user : it is only available using an
> aggregate query and could be costly to access if you wanted to show  
> this
> next to each user. With a non versioned property you would have this  
> in
> the user document cache.
> - last update time of a feed in XWiki Watch and number of articles
> loaded (currently this generates tons of versions of the document and
> forces us to clear versions, thus potentially loosing important  
> history
> information)
> - average page rating or user rating (this is a requirement of the
> Socracy project http://www.socracy.org) calculated after each rating.
> - watch list adding a page to watch for a user (not sure  if this one
> would be a use case as we might want the rollback for this)
>
> These non versioned property could be updated using Groovy  
> Notifications
> or could be updated using Groovy Scheduler Jobs..
>
> The other requirement is about being more efficient when saving which
> also would allow XWiki to be more efficient for application with many
> saves on big documents with many objects and properties.
>
> Ludovic
>
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> This is a relatively big change and I think we need a vote for this.
>> At the very least Ludovic can you explain the need?
>>
>> This is the first time we would not version something and thus break
>> the "wiki" principle of rollback. Thus we need to be sure it's a  
>> valid
>> use case with this in mind.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Artem,
>>>
>>> Can you look at integrating the following jira items in your  
>>> schedule:
>>>
>>> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2470
>>> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2471
>>>
>>> The objective would be to support non-versioned properties in XWiki
>>> Objects. Modifications to there properties would never make a new
>>> version of the document. At the same time we would highly improve
>>> our saving by not resaving data that are not changed. This would
>>> have great effect on big documents.
>>>
>>> If we had these in the standard API it would allow us not to write a
>>> separate plugin and storage on a client project.
>>>
>>> Ludovic
>>>
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