> > On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've read the proposal and I like it in general. Nice work! >>> >>> <roadmap/general ideas> >>> Stepping back a little and talking about roadmaps I think we should >>> eat more our own dogfood, meaning we should use XWatch internally for >>> our needs and find out what's useful for us first. This would be a >>> good process to define what's useful for others too. Personally I'm >>> not using any of the Watch UI right now. All I use is the resulting >>> RSS feed >>> (this one: >>> http://watch.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/WatchCode/PressReviewRss?space=XWikiSAS&flagged=0&trashed=-1&read=0&group=XWikiSAS.GroupXWikiNews&xpage=rdf&basicauth=1) >>> >>> I don't know how others in XWiki are using XWatch but I have the >>> feeling we could learn a lot from that. >> >> I agree. >> >>> >>> I think there needs to be some incentive for users to use the tool >>> (the filtering/categorizing part) they'll just use it as a basic RSS >>> aggregator (as I do). I don't have the full answer to that but I can >>> think of several ideas: >>> >>> 1) Its scope could be extended so that it supports different input >>> sources (as discussed previously and also by Guillaume in this >>> thread): >>> a) Mails from mailing lists (this would require difference actions, >>> like "closed discussion", "associate jira issue", etc. >>> b) Documents in a WebDAV store >>> c) XWiki Documents (pages) - This could be a nice way for people to >>> classify/navigate in a wiki. >> >> Still, I would not go for such a high degree of specificity for the >> various data sources. >> I would prefer a more universal approach without data source specific >> handling (potentially not even being aware, at watch application >> level, >> about the provenience of an item) and rather design the system as >> highly >> customizable (so that these specific actions could be implemented >> easily >> as custom extensions). > > Definitely. We're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about it > at the user level and you're talking about it at the implementation > level :) > >>> 2) Integration with external tools. For example if I could flag >>> articles directly from my favorite RSS feed readers without having to >>> open XWiki Watch I'd definitely start tagging/filtering. I think this >>> could be done easily by adding HTML at the beginning or end of feeds >>> provided by XWiki Watch. We could add some Flag/Comment links there >>> that would open inline (Javascript - I think most feed readers would >>> support that). >> >> One of these integrations that would enhance the accessibility and >> operability of watch data is in plan for 1.1 (m1): >> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWATCH-162 . > > I don't think this is the same thing. In that issue it says: "She goes > to the XWatch reader and clicks on the "Add Web Bookmark button"". My > point is to remove the need to go Watch and still be able to filter/ > tag/comment.
Indeed, as it is described there is not the same thing. An extension to that issue is to create a bookmarklet (à la gReader) and have the URLs added without going to the watch page itself. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >>> </roadmap/general ideas> >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>> Note that solution 1) a), if done correctly could potentially solve >>> our need for a forum. What I'd like right now from a forum is 2 >>> things: the ability to extract some statistics (namely to list the >>> top >>> 10 contributors) and to tell when a thread is closed or not (it's not >>> closed if the question asked has not been satisfactorily answered). I >>> know we're getting a bit away from the initial Watch idea but I think >>> it could broaden its usage and it would definitely fit in the >>> "organize and categorize information" domain. >>> >>> On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:29 AM, â Ecaterina Valica wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The new XWatch User Interface Proposal is available at: >>>> >>>> http://watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewUIProposal >>>> >>>> I'd be glad to get some feedback either on the list or in comments >>>> right on >>>> the page. >>>> I would also like to thank Anca, Guillaume and Eduard for their >>>> feedback and >>>> help given so far :) >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ecaterina Valica > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
