Vincent Massol wrote:
> On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> 
>> Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Vincent Massol  
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a decision to take to support image parameters when we're
>>>>>> linking to an image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what this would mean with the current syntax:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [[[[image:attach.png||height="100" width="100"]]>>http:// 
>>>>>> xwiki.org||
>>>>>> param=value]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that what we want?
>>>> After discussing with Thomas we both agreed that we'd prefer to have
>>>> this syntax above, i.e.
>>>>
>>>> [[[[image:attach.png||height="100" width="100"]]>>http://xwiki.org||
>>>> param=value]]
>>>>
>>>> And the good news is that I think I know how to modify wikimodel to
>>>> support this.
>>>>
>>>> I'll thus try to implement this starting now.
>>> Ok then no need to answer the previous mail ;)
>>>
>>> I will just add something about why I think we need to support the
>>> current syntax in place of finding one:
>>>
>>> This is a more generic problem that just image, how do deal with a
>>> link in a link should be only a renderer choice and it should not
>>> break the parser.
>>>
>>> If we say that link label is inline wiki syntax then link label is
>>> inline wiki syntax with no particular case. It's really way easier  
>>> and
>>> understandable for user and in general more logical to have only the
>>> label of the link in a link (because XHTML renderer decided to render
>>> it that way) than a broken link.
>>>
>>> So to conclude if we want to change the image syntaxe it should not  
>>> be
>>> for this image in link problem.
>> I agree, +1.
> 
> We can't have links inside links. It doesn't make sense since none of  
> our renderers will support this. I also haven't seen any output format  
> supporting this so far (even XPointer doesn't AFAIK). Mikhail (from  
> wikimodel) is also strongly against it.
> 
> What I have implemented is images inside links. So if you have the  
> following:
> 
> [[hello [[nolink]]>>reference]]
> 
> it will mean:
> 
> A link pointing to the following reference: "hello [[nolink" followed  
> by the text: ">>reference]]".

Q: Given the following text:

[[a [[b]] ]]

Is the first (end) "]]" marker associated with the first or the last 
(start) "[[" marker? In other words, is the parsing based on a queue or 
on a stack?

I would expect it to use a stack. In this case I'm not clear why the 
inner block cannot be a child of the outer block in the resulting 
DOM-like tree. The previous text can be invalid (doesn't pass a DTD-like 
check), but I think it should be well-formed (start markers pair with 
end markers), provided we allow wiki syntax inside link label.

I may be missing something since I don't know much about what the 
rendering module does under the hood.

Thanks,
Marius

> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
>>>>>> I'm not even sure we can implement this since wikimodel will  
>>>>>> consider
>>>>>> the reference to be:
>>>>>> [[[[image:attach.png||height="100" width="100"]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (since it'll use the first closing reference marker, i.e. "]]")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the question is: do we want to use a different syntax for  
>>>>>> images
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> should I try to make this one work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> I can think of the following solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Use a different syntax. For example: ((...))
>>>>>
>>>>> [[((attach.png||height="100" width="100"))>>http://xwiki.org||
>>>>> param=value]]
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Only allow inline images to be specified (i.e.  
>>>>> [[label>>image:...]]
>>>>> wouldn't be valid) and have a special handling for (% %)  when  
>>>>> placed
>>>>> before an inline image so that the params are applied to the img  
>>>>> tag
>>>>> and not to a span tag. Note: not sure how hard this is to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Allow passing parameters for inline images use a special syntax.
>>>>> For example: image:my.png||param=value. This would mean:
>>>>>
>>>>> [[attach.png||height="100" width="100">>http://xwiki.org||
>>>>> param=value]]
>>>>>
>>>>> ([[attach.png||height="100" width="100"]] would still be an image  
>>>>> and
>>>>> not a link)
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT? Any other idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
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