Excinting! Lots of ideas and arguments to explore...
I'm currently exploring OSGI for my professional and personal needs and I
think I'm going to use XWiki as my OSGI sandbox...
I will give some news alongside my studies so that we can exchange our
ideas!

Pascal


On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Pascal,
>
> Good topic!
>
> On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Pascal Voitot wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I am studying the component model and its impact on the whole
> > architecture
> > and naturally I have been thinking about OSGI and the possibility to
> > deliver
> > component bundles and load dynamically components into a running XWiki
> > server etc... I'm not an OSGI expert and speak about OSGI because
> > this seems
> > to be the most supported standard around these "dynamic service
> > bundles
> > management with classloader isolation blablabla" questions...
> >
> > I've seen OSGI is already in your thoughts and I would like to know
> > the
> > status of your studies.
>
> The status can be summarized as:
> * Top priority: move all code to components and rewrite those that
> need to be rewritten. We've started this and the next big step might
> be the new model
> * Don't introduce any dependency on a given component model and allow
> different component models to be used.
> * Find someone who has some OSGi knowledge to try making bundles for
> xwiki components.
>
> > The question of the OSGI runtime is not quite a problem to my mind...
> > The new component model is well fitted to the OSGI approach IMO...
> > The real question is how to mix the IOC model with the OSGI bundle...
>
> Are there any problems you know of? Ideally for me we should have a
> component descriptor for each component model we want to support. I
> think OSGi support both Java activator but also descriptors (maybe
> using spring osgi for that I don't know).
>
> > Plexus is a pretty IOC container but has no OSGI extension (there
> > seems to
> > be some works around classworlds but not clear and classworlds is
> > not OSGI
> > anyway...).
>
> Actually this is not quite true. Plexus guys have developed an OSGi
> bridge (bidirectional as I understand it). I haven't seen nor tested
> it though.
>
> > Would you keep Plexus and add the required extensions so that it can
> > be
> > easily used with OSGI without adding too much code each time you
> > want to
> > create a new OSGI service bundle?
> > Would you think about using another IOC container which propose OSGI
> > extensions (Spring DM or other)?
>
> I'm not OSGi expert but I think the best would be to use OSGi with a
> component descriptor (but without Java code if we can).
>
> Note that there's a maven plugin for OSGi which will generate OSGi
> Manifest information from maven's pom.xml files.
>
> Basically we we're just waiting for someone who's interested in trying
> out making our components OSGi components.
>
> I'm very eager to verify that we can easily create OSGi bundles out of
> our existing components.
>
> So if you're interested, I'd say go for it. We need to that exercise
> and the sooner the better. I don't know enough to decide if we need
> spring osgi or pure OSGi. Maybe you can tell us after you explore it?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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> http://massol.net
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