Hi, I thought about the issue a bit more and I changed my mind: I agree with Asiri & Vincent on the fact that an user will expect most of the styles he applied to be preserved on the resulting document.
There are 2 different issues at hand: 1) Same-looking documents across the wiki 2) Wikis syntax readability Thus to select a number of filtering levels and options we need to answer the following questions: 1) Do we want to force a standard layout for content throughout the wiki? 2) Do we want a human to be able to read the outputted wiki wyntax? I agree with Asiri on the fact that we should not have more than 2 options available. Here are my answers: 1) My webdesigner's spirit (as far as I have one) goes towards imposing a similar layout for content. However, people are messy. They want to do whateverthey want with their content. If they fail at doing so, they get annoyed (and they don't care about what I think about it :-). If they get annoyed, they stop using the software. Thus we should not filter out styles by default. 2) My developer's spirit (ibidem) leans in favor of clean, readable syntax. But that's because I like using the wiki syntax editor. We spent months creating a WYSIWYG editor that will work so much better than the old one that the majority of people will never have to bother looking at wiki syntax again. This is good. Thus syntax readability doesn't matter much either. I'm in favor of keeping 2 options though, since some people (well, in this case at least Sergiu & me :-) will want to strip almost everything but content when importing documents (and reach objectives 1) & 2) ). Plus, as the original doc gets attached to the page, it can be imported again using the other import mode if the first one used wasn't satisfying enough. The default option should be to use as little filtering as possible. As for the criteria in choosing what goes in both filtering modes: * strict filtering: keep the syntax as readable as possible, thus remove every %% * standard import: well, I still think you could remove that weird "western" property that gets into most documents ;-) Apart from that, the more the better (Asiri, did you write a detailed list of properties to add / remove somewhere?) Guillaume ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Asiri Rathnayake <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Remove moderate style filtering option from office importer To: XWiki Developers <[email protected]> Hi, > Links can have name, rel and target. Images require alt. Tables can have > summary. These are not really presentational attributes. Some of these attributes are allowed in 'strict' mode (name, alt, colspan, rowspan) - These are the attributes we consider non-presentational. And some of them doesn't make sense when we consider office documents (ex target) So I think 'strict' style filter makes lot of sense. But it's possible that there are other attributes that should be allowed in 'strict' filtering mode. Thanks. - Asiri _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki Skype ID : wikibc http://guillaumelerouge.com/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
