On Mar 26, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > On 25 mars 09, at 16:08, Vincent Massol wrote: > >> Just to be sure, the GUID would not allow to link any data back to >> you >> of course, it's just an id that is the same across pings. We should >> make sure of that. Then the idea is not to send any data at all, only >> to know that a given instance is alive (for that we need to know that >> 2 pings are coming from the same XE install). > > Yes, I have understand that but even without personal information, > generating unique ID could be considered spyware. Do you remember the > reaction when Intel has introduce a GUID in their processor ? > Probably many people will not care and never noticed, but do you want > to take the risk that one be shocked and start an internet compain > saying you are developing spyware ? > For myself, I would not, and I feel that privacy is a growing concern > these days. > >> The problem is that adding a screen with disclaimer/etc is more >> complex and would require more time. We would actually need the >> installation wizard which is not there yet. I think it's a good idea >> to do so but in this case, as you say we would probably gather more >> data. Right now the need is very simple: just to know how many XE >> installs are active. > > As I have said, ensuring that some page trigger a RSS request to your > site will probably not raise the same issue, and collecting data from > web server logs is commonly accepted. I feel that with some clever > algorithm, you may be able to derive some significant information. I > hopefully, we can imagine that the wizard will be ready when more > precise statistics will be needed. > >> The GUI could be a random number generated once and stored in the >> database. > > This precisely what I dislike in this idea. > >> Do you consider that to be spying if there's no way to link that >> simple information to you? > > Definitely, yes this is spyware practice. It is exactly the same as > leaving a cookie.
ok I understand. Thanks for your feedback. That was why I posted this (to ensure there was no problem and I'm glad you caught it since there is a problem :)). As ludovic said he'll try to think about other ways to find active installs (it was his idea initially that I was trying to implement). Thanks again -Vincent _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
