Jerome Velociter wrote: > Eduard Moraru wrote: >> Regarding GIFs (a bit off topic). >> >> The main advantage GIFs provide is animation. (transparency is already >> done by regular PNG).
We don't use animations, so this is not a requirement. > Internet Explorer 6 does not support PNG transparency natively > (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/294714). > No, they don't support alpha transparency. Neither do GIFs. Simple true/false transparency is supported. > > PS: reminder: this has been voted on the list couple of months ago : > http://tinyurl.com/dee3j6 No, the vote was about using the Silk icon set, from a graphical point of view, there was no vote on the format. >> Check out APNG (Animated PNG). Some samples are at >> http://animatedpng.com/index.php/category/samples/ >> I tested some APNGs from the samples (.png extensions) and they run well >> on Linux and Vista, so it seems to have good support. >> >> This could be a nice alternative to the evil GIFs. >> >> Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: >>> Jerome Velociter wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> Yesterday, Vincent introduced a "Modules" section on code.xwiki.org to >>>> host XWiki components documentation. From that we had a conversation on >>>> IRC about terminology of categories on code.xwiki.org. My observation >>>> was that we have some applications that are not really such since they >>>> do not offer features to users, but only to developers. Take the date >>>> picker application >>>> (http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/DatePickerApplication) >>>> : it is not self-standing, this is just for developers that needs a date >>>> picker in their apps. I proposed we add an "Extensions" category that >>>> would host Skin eXtensions (JSX and SSX) and applications such as the >>>> datepicker would fit in there. But as Vincent remarked, we already have >>>> an extension category for "an application or script that integrates or >>>> interacts with XWiki". In the end, I'll come here with Vincent's idea of >>>> merging such extensions with plugins, and then have the following >>>> categories : >>>> >>>> * Plugins: A plugin is everything that brings new functionality to the >>>> wiki, but that does not necessarily expose it to end users. There will >>>> be two main kinds of plugins: Front-end plugins (that will mostly come >>>> under the form of SX), as the date picker will be for example, and >>>> Back-end plugins, which can be of various form, such as an old fashioned >>>> xwiki plugin (grand'ma style), or a xwiki component with a velocity >>>> bridge, etc. To sum up, plugins bring *functionalities to developers*. >>>> >>>> * Applications: An application will stay what it is today : something an >>>> administrator can install on its wiki and that provides functionality to >>>> end-users, directly visible/exploitable without the need of more >>>> programming. This mean a SX that do such is an application, for instance >>>> this is how the Ratings application >>>> (http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/sandbox/xwiki-application-ratings/) >>>> is made. To sum up, applications bring *functionalities to the end users*. >>>> >>>> Conclusions: Skin eXtensions will remain only a technical term to >>>> designate what they are as platform feature. This is for us, the >>>> knowledgeable gurus ; on code.xwiki.org we will offer only plugins and >>>> applications. >>>> >>>> As for icons to represent those two ideas (both on code.xwiki.org and in >>>> the future in XE) - since this is what matters in the end, icons :) - I >>>> propose we use application.gif for Applications and plugin.gif for >>>> Plugins from the silk set. Pretty straightforward, eh ;) >>>> >>>> WDYT ? >>>> >>> From a user perspective, having less names and categories is good. >>> However, given that so many different types of things will go under >>> "plugins", it will be more confusing IMO. There's a huge difference >>> between a calendar sx and a kerberos auth class, or the SVG plugin, or >>> the localization component. >>> >>> Another name I've been suggesting for a while for interface extensions >>> that add new components is, well, "UI components". >>> >>> And another thing I just noticed: we provide GIFs?! GIFs are evil. GIFs >>> are deprecated. GIFs are very limited. It's true that the Burn All Gifs >>> campaign was started a very long time ago, but it is still valid. >>> http://burnallgifs.org/archives/ >>> -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

