On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
>
> Note the livetable is an empty table everywhere you don't have  
> JavaScript.
> Inserting the select in JavaScript sounds a bad idea to me. It would  
> be
> a hack to hide form controls (button, select, etc) to renderers for
> which they do not have sense. But those form controls are meaningful  
> in
> the macro, to me a form is something that by itself justify the use of
> the HTML macro. (and actually I'm not sure you can do that trick that
> easily, since the select values are generated server side from  
> velocity).
>
> I'm completely convinced we have to use standard wiki syntax as much  
> as
> possible, but we should also keep in mind that some macros will not  
> make
> any kind of sense anywhere but in a browser. Can renderers that do not
> support HTML fragments just drop them (eventually outputting a message
> to say a part of the original document is missing) ?

Yes that's the problem: they'll be dropped. So instead of a table with  
data it'll be an empty space.
That said we need to think how we'd want a livetable to be displayed  
in other renderers.

As I said that's not a problem we have now but we need to be aware of  
it since it'll crop up again one day.

-Vincent

> Thanks,
> Jerome.
>
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> Note that since you've used the HTML macro using renderers may not
>> output the live grid (only renderers that support HTML will be able  
>> to
>> output some result).
>>
>> I've checked the html and all of it could be replaced by wiki syntax
>> except for the select part. We could use wiki syntax everywhere and
>> use some JS to inject the select in the HTML DOM afterwards. This
>> would allow to output it easily.
>>
>> We currently have only 2 renderers that we use: xwiki syntax and  
>> xhtml
>> and both support Raw events when the syntax is HTML. We can imagine
>> that PDF, RTF renderers would also support it (it'll depend on how we
>> implement it, if we use FOP it's fine but there's also a very simple
>> way to implement a PDF renderer using itext but then I don't think if
>> it can support HMTL fragments). We have a LaTex renderer that we
>> currently don't use and this one won't work for example.
>>
>> This is just a thought for now. We just need to be aware of it for  
>> the
>> future. We need to remember that using the HTML macro bypasses the
>> rendering mechanism and thus generate non standard stuff.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:08 AM, jvelociter (SVN) wrote:
>>
>>> Author: jvelociter
>>> Date: 2009-04-30 08:08:53 +0200 (Thu, 30 Apr 2009)
>>> New Revision: 19209
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>>  platform/core/trunk/xwiki-core/src/main/resources/
>>> ApplicationResources.properties
>>>  platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/resources/js/xwiki/
>>> table/livetable.css
>>>  platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/resources/js/xwiki/
>>> table/livetable.js
>>>  platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/templates/macros.vm
>>> Log:
>>> XWIKI-3705 Clean and enhance the javascript Live Table component
>>> XWIKI-3706 Provide a velocity macro to automate the creation of live
>>> tables
>>>
>>> * Added support for multiple pagination nodes (for example one on
>>> top, and one under the table). Formatting of livetable.js
>>> * Added the #livetable macro in macros.vm, that supports syntax 1.0
>>> and 2.0
>>>
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