On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Pascal Voitot <[email protected] > wrote:
> I agree with Vincent... Groovy is the easiest solution... > In the past, I tried another "weird" solution consisting in integrating a > JavaScript rendering engine on the serverside such as rhino... then > manipulating a DOM in Javascript was quite natural and I could use great > APIs such as prototype... It worked quite well but I'm not sure about the > performance and memory issues but I found this idea funny: Javascript on > serverside... This might seem a bit "heretic" to say that but there are > some > products on the market proposing to build websites with javascript on > client > and server side... Belated thanks to Vincent and Pascal for their suggestions regarding "web scraping." in Xwiki. It turned out jQuery() is the easiest solution for what I needed, which is quick n' dirty. The suggestions to use groovy are appreciated: it is an implementation strategy I will need to look into in the future, I just don't want a tiny sub-project turning into a project in and of itself, lest I never finish .... Regarding Pascal's comment about the "heretic" notion of server-side-javascript: Please note http://freebaseapps.com/ example app: http://fmdb.freebaseapps.com/ "Introducing Acre: Freebase’s integrated app development and hosting environment" This all sounds very familiar, like Xwiki.org/Xwiki.com, combined with a product version of Exhibit <http://simile-widgets.org/exhibit/>. Which is exactly what I was alluding to here ( http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09547.html ) as a very powerful development&delivery environment, and perhaps signalling a direction-shift in web-development: http://freebaseapps.com has lots of similarities to what Xwiki has provided for years: > > - A Browser-based JavaScript IDEincluding syntax highlighting, file > organzation and more > - Open Code for Open Data all Acre files are stored in Freebase and > code sharing is encouraged in a variety of ways > > Here's the part that looks exactly like Exhibit -- right down to the syntax (exhibit uses ex:if=, acre uses acre:if=). In fact, Acre source code, with their templating language, ends up looking suspiciously close to my Exhibit+Xwiki (Velocity) code, except they can't access all the rich Java functionality with their template language like you can in Xwiki. [image: an Acre script] <http://freebaseapps.com/wiki/index> Here's where the "heresy" starts. Xwiki uses Java on the server-side. Freebaseapps uses JavaScript: > > - Server-side JavaScriptuse the same language on the server that you > use in the client > > This is basically a product version of Exhibit: > > - Template Languagea built-in, simple yet powerful XHTML template > language > > There's been a good amount of Exhibit/Freebase semantic-web work in the Simile project. Again, looks like a productization of MIT semantic web work: > > - Built-in support for FreebaseMQL query integration, plus helper > methods included for all Freebase APIs > > And finally an application hosting solution. Similar to Xwiki SAS... > Hosted on freebaseapps.comno servers to maintain! > FYI, I found out about this here (also relevant to the topic of web-scraping in JavaScript) > Freebase Hack Day II: Return of Hack Day > > You're invited to attend the Freebase Hack Day and Unconference on July > 11th in San Francisco. This event is a great opportunity to learn about what > Freebase is, find out about our developer platform, and chat to Freebase > staff and experts. Some examples of what will be happening on the day: > > - We'll be launching Acre 1.0 just a few days before Hack Day. Jason > Douglas will be showing off the features of our hosted app development > platform <http://freebaseapps.com/>, including the ability to share and > clone apps, connect to other APIs with our keystore and OAuth, and build > queries and templated web pages based on Freebase data more easily than > ever > before. Acre's come a long way since our last Hack Day, so don't miss this. > (Read more about Acre.<http://blog.freebase.com/category/developer/acre/>) > > - The MQL Boot Camp will be run this year by Bryan Culbertson. Learn > how to query against Freebase's structured data about almost 6 million > topics, and see the new features of our query editor, including > tab-completion for syntax and schema. (Read more about > MQL<http://blog.freebase.com/category/developers/mql/>and the query > editor <http://blog.freebase.com/2009/04/22/query-editor-20/>). > - Learn how to use Freebase to enhance your website with structured > data, like the Wall Street > Journal<http://blog.freebase.com/2009/06/25/freebase-data-now-on-wsj-com/>, > or build entire apps and websites on Acre, like > Tippify<http://tippify.com/>. > > - Hack on apps like our Games With A > Purpose<http://blog.freebase.com/tag/gwap/>, > a TV program schedule mashup, and more. If you have a project and you're > looking for partners, technical help, or ideas, bring it with you! We're > also working on having a handful of projects ready for people to hack on > who > haven't brought one of their own.) > - Find out about how Freebase's part in the Linked Open > Data<http://linkeddata.org/>world, and how to use Semantic > Web <http://blog.freebase.com/category/semantic-web/> techniques and > tools to work with Freebase data. > > Niels http://nielsmayer.com _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
