Hi, On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi devs, > > Can I get some votes on whether we want to do this or not? > > So far I've only received a -0 from Marius but on a specific item and > not in general. > > I'd like that we start working on this ASAP by doing the following: > - Execute the tests on XE pages > - Creating discrete jira issues whenever there are problems on pages, > small enough so that they can be tackled one by one > - Start fixing the issues > > Thanks > -Vincent > > On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > > Hi devs, > > > > We've always tried to follow standards in the XWiki project. I'd > > like to propose that we start adhering to the WCAG ones to make > > XWiki even more accessible. > > > > The reason I'm proposing this is because XWiki SAS has been > > contacted by some Dutch organization promoting the usage of > > standards in Netherlands and they're interested in using XWiki for > > their site. As such they need that the wiki they use also follows > > the guidelines... They've found XWiki since it was one of the wikis > > out there that follows most closely the guidelines. > > > > This is our opportunity to meet the WCAG guidelines and go even > > beyond (since the Dutch guidelines go slightly further I believe, > > see http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/guidelines/). We would be > > the first wiki to meet this! > > > > If we agree we'll need to find some ways to automate the execution > > of the verifications. Right now we can test pages using this > > validator: > > http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/test/ > > > > I've started verifying this page: > > http://playground.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ > > > > Result: > > http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/test/report/74721/179372/ > > > > > > Some examples of failing stuff: > > > > 1) Style attribute forbidden. Everything from CSS. > > > > Ex from home page: > > <div id="globallinks"> <form action="/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch" > > style="margin: 0; padding: 0;"> <div id="globalsearch"> <input > > id="globalsearchinput" type="text" name="text" value="search..." > > size="15" class="withTip"/><input class="button" value="Go" > > type="image" src="/xwiki/resources/icons/xwiki/search.png"/> </div> > > </form> </div> > > ... > > <div class="hidden" id="spSpaceCreateForm"><form action="/xwiki/bin/ > > view/Main/?xpage=create" method="post"> <div> <input name="tocreate" > > type="hidden" value="space"></input> <input class="panelinput" > > name="title" onblur="if(this.value=='') this.value='Space name'" > > onfocus="if(this.value=='Space name') this.value=''" > > style="margin:auto;" type="text" value="Space name"></input> <input > > type="submit" value="Create"></input> </div> </form> </div> > > ... > > <p style="font-size:0.75em;padding-left:8px;"><a href="/xwiki/bin/ > > inline/Panels/QuickLinks">(Edit this panel)</a></p> > > > > 2) Need to run CSS Level 2.1 validation. Lots of error. For ex on > > home page: http://bit.ly/4x9YlM > > 3) Apparently we made a mistake by choosing to have 2 H1 (one for > > title and for headers). "The document hierarchy contains more that > > one h1 tags .". > > > > Before going further I'd like to ensure that we all agree to follow > > these guidelines and put in our best practices (and ensure we verify > > with some automated tests later on). > > Here's my +1 > I'm +1 too. By the way, I've been playing around with XWiki and Lynx over the weekend and the result is pretty much ok both in view and in wiki edition mode (I was able to edit and save a page easily). There's a lot of "menu" clutter at the top of the page though :-) Anyway, the experiment with a text-based web browser leads me to think that following the guidelines and creating an accessible tool will also lead us to create a leaner solution: when looking at the wiki as text-only, plenty of ideas on how to improve it spring to mind. Guillaume PS: Sergiu, if you know how to add a line between 2 written lines in a TextArea in Lynx I'd like to learn about it: so far when hitting 'Return' at the end of a line the cursor goes to the next line but does not add a new line between my 2 existing lines > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
