Hi everyone, 

I am +1 to make stabilization work, on a couple of releases
I am +1 to have soon a 3.0 release
And i am +1 on the content vincent propose

But my point of view is -1 stepping the release family number because the main 
purpose of what is discussed here is stabilization, and not showing the path of 
3.x family. 

Therefore : 
- do we consider a january 2011 release to be stable enough ? 
- stabilization work wouldn'it be leading then to the last 2.x version instead 
of the first 3.x family version ?
- is there behind it a consensus on what we will concentrate our effort in 3.x 
versions ? I mean thematics we can talk about.
- therefore, are we in a situation where we can vote on the global thematics we 
will develop in 3.x releases ?
- do we have a clear consensus short list of features that show the path of 3.x 
family ?
- in consequence of that, is the release content here send a clear message to 
uneducated publics about what is in this future 3.x versions ?
- do educated people care this much about release number, that we absolutely 
have to release a 3.0 with the content presented below ?

We have to make 100% sure our message will be understood by market. We are now 
in the Gartner magic quadrant and will increase our visibility outside the 
opensource community. In a world where new release number families means : "we 
show the path of the future of this software, even if the features we present 
are not perfect", i will strongly promote to answer in details the questions i 
mentionned before deciding 2.8 to be in fact 3.0.

Then here is the two elements that are probably the biggest things in the 
roadmap for 3.x versions :
- going social (workspaces in xem, twitter like app, page stats for the user, 
etc.)
- going to be an easy place to develop in (extension manager of course, but 
also documentation for dummies and a first app like "app within minute" 
proposed by guillaume and strongly needed by our front team)

Is there a consensus on this list ? Then what should be the "demo" features we 
could present to be consistent for a 3.0 release ?

Best 

  

On 1 nov. 2010, at 09:23, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Sergiu started mentioning the idea of a XE 3.0 when we defined the XE 2.6 
> roadmap. We need a more general agreement that we want a XE 3.0 and how to 
> reach it.
> 
> As Sergiu I believe we need a XE 3.0 ASAP for the following reasons:
> 
> - it's been a bit more than 1 year since the XE 2.0 release and I feel it's 
> good to have one major release every year
> - we've added **lots** of features since XE 2.0. Check 
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotes to get a feeling
> - it's good for open source marketing
> 
> Before being able to release XE 3.0 I think:
> 
> - XE 2.6 is already planned for the 18th of November (with "mail this page" 
> and "recent activity" features + icon/emoticon and wikiword support that was 
> sneaked in surreptitiously)
> - We should have a XE 2.7 release (1 month duration, ie leading us to the 
> 18th of December) to finish started stuff:
> -- Finish the Gadget integration since it's been started already and it's 
> important. That said I'd actually be ok to not finish it if we think it's too 
> much to release XE 3.0 quickly according to the dates below. Anca to tell us 
> if it's possible in the timeframe.
> -- First working extension manager that can be used to install XARs (replaces 
> the old Packager on the back end side). Thomas to tell us if it's possible in 
> the timeframe.
> -- Recent Activity with apps sending events (XE 2.6 will already have a good 
> part of it)
> -- UI finishing touches
> -- Some additional Security and Performance improvements if possible
> -- etc (add what you'd like to see absolutely here - it should be work 
> already started as much as possible and no new stuff)
> - Release XE 3.0 one month after the XE 2.7 release, ie around 18th of 
> January - ie end of January 2011)
> 
> Very important: XE 3.0 should be a maturation/conclusion release, i.e. 
> concluding all the work started in the 2.x series (same as what we did for XE 
> 2.0). It shouldn't be seen as revolutionary stuff that we should add from now 
> on since it'll take a year more before those can be fully stabilized and we 
> would loose the window of opportunity of doing a major release now.
> 
> Note: We shouldn't try to cram too much things in since that'll extend the 
> lead time to release XE 3.0 and we'll loose the stabilization effect.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
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