On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:

> 
> My proposal about using view mode is not to be in "edit" mode automatically.
> My proposal is to have the "edit" button maybe more visible as well as "Add 
> Widget", and more importantly to have the "edit" button not load the "inline" 
> mode, but load in place.
> Most importantly the "save" buttons don't mean anything as adding a gadget 
> adds an XWiki object and is permanent. Same with moving and removing gadgets. 
> That changes the object right away.

Actually this is a bug that we need to fix. It's absolutely not normal that 
when you add objects in the object editor the objects are added even if you 
cancel the edit

Thanks
-Vincent

> So we need to "remove" the "save" actions as they won't mean anything.
> 
> Ludovic
> 
> 
> Le 08/03/11 18:07, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit :
>> On 03/08/2011 05:57 PM, Marta Girdea wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Luca Anca<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 12:44 +0100, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've tried the dashbord on 3.0 snapshot and could not make the "Add
>>>>> Gadget" function work on an empty dashboard.
>>>>>   From what I see the issue seems to be in the wysiwyg code. I got the
>>>> no, it's dashboards code, I forgot to handle the case when the column
>>>> where the gadget should be added doesn't actually exist.
>>>> 
>>>>> dialog box from the wysiwyg, when clicking on Insert Gadget" I got an
>>>>> exception:
>>>>> 
>>>>> uncaught exception: Class$dF: One or more exceptions caught, see full
>>>>> set in UmbrellaException#getCauses
>>>>> at
>>>>> function nr(){try{null.a()}catch(b){return b}}
>>>>> 
>>>>> This issue seemed to only happen with an empty dashboard macro (with not
>>>>> gadget yet added).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we need to work on two things for each feature that we are
>>>>> developping:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1/ Having a status of where we are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the case of Dashboard, I think that's updating this page:
>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/Gadget+Scenarios+Prioritized
>>>> I updated the table. There could be new cases, I guess, to comprise the
>>>> missing things (like adding a column when editing, or others a like),
>>>> but I prefer to use Jira issues for these. WDYT?
>>>> 
>>>>> 2/ Write a test plan and have Sorin include the testing of new features
>>>>> in his testing.
>>>>> For that he needs to know how to test and what is supposed to be
>>>>> there/not there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Concerning the development priorities, I think for the next period of
>>>>> development on the dashboard we need to focus on wiring the UI for
>>>>> "beginners", making it easy for them to create their first dashboard. In
>>>>> my view this is in priority:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Create page with a dashboard macro (In the Add Menu in XE)
>>>>> - Go to edit more
>>>> What's "edit more"?
>>>> 
>>>>> (I'm still convinced that we need the dashboard
>>>>> editing in "view" mode and not in "inline" mode)
>>>> What do others think?
>>>> Knowing that the current edit in inline mode has a few limitations:
>>>> * remove gadget will be saved immediately, not when the user clicks
>>>> "save". If the user says remove gadget, confirms the remove and then
>>>> clicks the "cancel" button in the edit form, the remove will still be
>>>> saved.
>>>> * same for add gadget.
>>>> 
>>>> The way I see the two possibilities:
>>>> A) "View mode edit" will save on every change
>>>> B) "Edit mode edit" (implemented as inline edit, now) will save
>>>> everything at the end (current implementation but with the limitations
>>>> fixed).
>>>> 
>>>> So, WDYT?
>>> -1 for A)
>>> 
>>> I'm definitely for B) "Edit mode edit", not only for consistency, but
>>> also for avoiding surprise side effects when interacting with the
>>> dashboard.
>> Same for me. Users tend to just move things around, accidentally click
>> the mouse, and then "things just broke by themselves".
>> 
>>>>> - Add a column in your dashboard
>>>>> - Editing a dashboard
>>>> you mean editing a gadget? as in the parameters of that gadget?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I would add to this list, potentially at the top:
>>>> - finalizing the structure of the dashboard / gadgets objects, so that
>>>> we don't have migration in the next releases (e.g. if we decide to add a
>>>> field in the gadget object to identify which is the dashboard of that
>>>> gadget, in case there are multiple dashboards on one page, we should do
>>>> it now).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the feedback,
>>>> Anca
>>>> 
>>>>> Also for the 3.1 timeframe I think we need to have some brainstorm to
>>>>> add some more "Dashboard" friendly macros/gadgets to make dashboards
>>>>> more usefull and interesting for users, but that's another story.
>>>>> Right now I think the most important is that we agree on the priorities
>>>>> for the next step and that for 3.0 we have a simple but coherent
>>>>> dashboard feature.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ludovic
>> 
> 
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