On 04/18/2011 09:14 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>
> On Apr 18, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>
>> On 04/17/2011 11:02 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Hi Marius,
>>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> Do we have a specification for what a tag is inside XWiki? On
>>>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Tag+Application
>>>> tags are defined as keywords but no constraints are specified.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to enforce this two constraints on tags:
>>>> * tags can't have leading and trailing white space characters
>>>
>>
>>> I'm not sure if you mean using space as a separator or not here. If space 
>>> is used as a separator then it should be allowed to use quotes (such as: 
>>> "<space>*tagvalue<space>*").
>>
>> Since some users want to be able to use space inside a tag, only leading
>> and trailing space will be removed. For instance:
>>
>> "  Word of mouth , foo   " ->  2 tags "Word of mouth" and "foo"
>

> How do I enter leading spaces if I want? I'd like to be able to enter *any* 
> character in any part of the tag name.

I need valid use cases. I know it's nice to be able to do everything but 
it's not worth to implement the quotes and the escaping character if no 
one will ever used them in real life. How many tags did you see with 
leading or trailing spaces? How many containing a comma?

Tags are 99% keywords and IMO it's best to establish some simple rules:

* no leading or trailing spaces
* no comma inside

rather than implementing something that is useful in 1% of the cases.

Now, I didn't started this thread to re-implement or re-design the tags 
UI. I just wanted to fix the current way of inputting tags which is not 
consistent:

* regarding leading and trailing spaces:
"  foo, bar" -> "  foo" and "bar"

* regarding case:
"foo,bar,fOo" -> removing "fOo" removes "foo" also.

Thanks,
Marius

>
> Some questions:
> * Can the user uses quotes to enter any character, for ex " word ". 
> Alternatively the space could be escaped with a char, for ex \
> * How can the user use quotes, is there an escape char, for ex: my tag with a 
> \"
> * Same question for entering the tag separator character. For ex if comma is 
> the separator, can I enter: tag with \, in the name
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>>> * tags' case is saved but case is ignored when comparing two tags (once
>>>> you defined a tag "news" you can't define a new tag "News"; the existing
>>>> tag is reused; tag's case is used only for display)
>>>
>>
>>> If we don't consider case I'm not sure we should use display using the 
>>> first tag entered. For example someone entered "http". Someone else wants 
>>> to add HTTP. Should we display http or HTTP?
>>> I'm fine with displaying http provided the UI allows to renamed the tag 
>>> case.
>>
>> If you click on the tag you go to Main.Tags page where you have an
>> option to rename the tag (that is specified in the query string).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>>>
>>> Otherwise ok for me.
>>>
>>>> Optionally, we could enforce that tags can't contain white spaces.
>>>
>>> See above.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> If no one is against it then I'd like to change the UI to apply these
>>>> constraints.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marius
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