Hi Caty,

this looks quite promising! Keep the proposals coming, I really look forward
to the next version of your work on this feature.

Nice work :-)

Guillaume

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 22:03, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Here is some feedback about the proposal.
>
> Generally I like the proposal which covers mostly what we need.
>
> I see some ntegration issue however:
>
> - the structure of the page is different than a normal "xwiki" page. This
> is a problem I think. I'm not sure how this will integrate in the rest of
> XWiki. This probably means there should be some way to customize the "home
> page" look.
> - it's not clear where the application resides, wether it is in the "prefs"
> or somewhere in the wiki and how we access it.
>
> Some comments about the UI itself:
>
> Main Screen:
>
> -  "Add New Entry" should not have a page name. One of the objectives of
> the project is to get rid of this requirement. It should only be an "Add"
> button.
>
> Structure Screen:
>
> - I'm not sure about the left vertical zone with the different page types.
> Your proposal is kind of "IDE view". For an "IDE view" I would prefer a
> tree. But I think we first need an "simple view", so I believe we should
> propose 2 views: Simple / Advanced.
> - Simple View:
>   - Show only the minimun actions: Class, Templates, Translations
>   - We don't need "Sheet" in the simple view as it should be the default
> script. In "simple" mode no script should be necessary.
> - IDE View:
>   - Show a tree with all the different page types.
>
> Each page type should have some more advanced proposals to help edit. The
> most important one is the "Class Editor". We need a simpler proposal. We
> should look at applications on the web (google forms or so) which propose
> some simple ways to add and edit fields. This could mean merging "class
> editor" and "sheet editor" but I'm not sure we are ready for that yet.
>
> For "Sheets" we need a way to associate "Sheets" with edit modes (view /
> edit / search / changes / home), but that's advanced mode too.
> For Translations initially it would be the usual wiki editing, but then we
> should propose an editor.
>
> The main priority I see for the next steps are:
>
> - propose a "simple view"
> - propose a simpler class editor
> - clarify/fix integration issues for the home page / define entry point of
> the App Within Minutes app
> - propose an edit view for translations
>
> In general it's ok that we think "long term" (IDE style in advanced mode,
> more advanced editors), but we can already deliver something compelling with
> all the "default options" used instead of providing too many features.
> Let's make sure we have a clear definition of the "minimum" so that
> developers know what to start with.
>
> Looking forward for the next cycle.
>
> Ludovic
>
> Le 22/04/11 18:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) a écrit :
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> I've made a proposal with my vision for the Application Within Minutes
>> idea
>> ( http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ApplicationWithinMinutes )
>>
>> The proposal can be found at:
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesProposal
>>
>> Additional details for the "Structure" area at:
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesProposalStructure
>>
>> Curious of what you think about it.
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Prototypes (they are linked one from another):
>> * Home:
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesEditorHome
>>
>> * Structure:
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesEditorClass
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesEditorSheet
>>
>> * Preferences:
>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ApplicationWithinMinutesEditorPreferences
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