On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 16:27, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks Denis for raising this again, it's indeed a pretty annoying issue
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Mortagne
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 15:57, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Devs,
>>>
>>> Anyone of you will surely agree that the hidden document feature implemented
>>> in the store is very bad.
>>
>> The way this "feature" is implemented should never have been accepted,
>> it just broke an API for something that is not really related to
>> storage...
>>
>> See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3925 and its dependencies.
>>
>>> IMO, it has never been fully implemented, probably in the hope of a better
>>> way to go, and it is so for too long. I think it is the time to take some
>>> decision about it, or I do not see the direction and I do not understand
>>> where we want to go ?
>>>
>>> I see 3 possibilities:
>>>  1) we remove it and found other way to solve the problem it solves, which
>>> are currently limited to the Blog, ColorThemes and Panels applications in a
>>> standard XE.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>>  2) we keep it as it is, since it could be hard to implement higher in the
>>> current implementation, but then we need to fix the places where it cause
>>> issues.
>>
>> -1, I can see it as a long term solution. It's something to say we
>> will fix it latter it's something else to validate it. Adding a
>> boolean to searchDocument as indicated in
>> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3925 would already be a lot
>> better than the current situation.
>
> Yes... Even if a lot of extensions/snippet will have to be changed to
> set that boolean (copy space, selective export, etc.)

Why ? What I proposed exactly in the jira issue was to have that
boolean to true by default which the current behavior.

>
> Jerome
>
>>
>>>  3) we implement the feature using another method ?
>>
>> I don't fully understand what is the difference between 1) and 3).
>>
>>>
>>> If we choose 1), early in 3.x release is the probably best moment for it,
>>> since it is a breakage in compatibility, I am -0 on this however.
>>>
>>> If we choose 2), we need to make it work properly by fixing places where we
>>> need to include all document, including hidden one. I have some old patch to
>>> the application-manager to export hidden document (ie: currently the blog
>>> application does not export properly),  to the skinx plugin that does not
>>> apply 'always' skin extensions contained in hidden document, and there is
>>> probably other places.
>>>
>>> If we choose 3) now, what do you proposed to better implement it. I have
>>> read some comments that it was a UI level stuff implemented at the store
>>> level, but I do not see how it could be done better in the current
>>> implementation.
>>>
>>> Moreover, if we keep the feature, I think that it should be exposed somehow
>>> to the admins, allowing the creation of hidden document, but also listing
>>> them, deleting them properly, etc... Concerning the document provided with
>>> XE, I also wonder what could be the rules for hiding them or not ? Why not
>>> also hidding stock document in the XWiki space, just keeping users and some
>>> top level documents ?
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>>
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