On 06/02/2011 12:35 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>
> On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>
>> On 05/31/2011 05:54 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> Here's the situation:
>>>
>>> * We've been having a hard time releasing on time and the main issue is 
>>> test stability. We lag by at least a week and we even release with failing 
>>> tests, causing regressions.
>>> * It's not the role of the release manager to fix tests before releasing
>>> * It's not normal that some people spend time fixing issues caused by 
>>> others and that others continue to work on the next thing they are working 
>>> on. Everyone needs to help.
>>>
>>> Here's what I propose as a drastic and temporary measure till we get better:
>>>
>>> 1) It's forbidden to commit anything till all tests are passing (unit AND 
>>> functional tests), unless what is committed is about fixing tests. On the 
>>> exceptional case when a committer absolutely needs to commit even though 
>>> tests are failing he needs to ask the permission explicitly.
>>> 2) When tests are failing, everyone should stop what they're doing and help 
>>> stabilize again. We synchronize on IRC.
>>
>>> 3) Flickering tests can be marked as @Ignore and a jira issue created to 
>>> stabilize the build.
>>
>> Does this apply to Selenium 1 tests?
>>
>>> 4) Release Manager creates a release branch 1 week before the release to 
>>> let everyone stabilize the build
>>
>> I think (1) and (2) are hard to achieve because tests take too long to
>> run. CI is at least 2h behind the latest commit. What are we supposed to
>> do while CI runs the tests? I think we should fix the real problem now:
>> add more agents and review the tests to see why they take so long to
>> run. I'm willing to spend time to make the WYSIWYG tests run faster.
>

> BTW on this topic XWiki SAS has purchased some new build server today so that 
> we can have several new agents on it (it should be able to run 4 agents). 
> I'll let you know once it's set up.

That's great news! Should we set up a Selenium Grid ( 
http://selenium-grid.seleniumhq.org/ )?

Thanks,
Marius

>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>> So +0.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>>>
>>> On a long term we need to work on improving our CI so that functional tests 
>>> are built faster. One idea is: more agents and functional tests spread on 
>>> several agents.
>>>
>>> Here's my +1 to apply this now for master (3.2-SNAPSHOT leading to 3.2M1), 
>>> which means not committing anything more till we have all functional tests 
>>> passing.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>
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