On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Jerome Velociter
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Jerome,
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> I would like to introduce a new module in platform : 
>>> xwiki-platform-thumbnails.
>>>
>>> The idea of the module is to provide means of handling thumbnails in
>>> XWiki. Right now the main purpose is to expose APIs to retrieve
>>> thumbnails URLs for images stored as attachments. This module first
>>> use will be to generate thumbnails of user avatars. In this scenario,
>>> it will also introduce a performance improvement compared to today's
>>> way of computing avatar URLS, since the module caches both the
>>> property values (the fact that user X has set an avatar Z.png) and the
>>> thumbnail URL for this avatar.
>>>
>>> I've already pushed it in a feature branch/. You can check in
>>> particular 
>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/3f5aa1e24ba00fcc939b73b8f9baa179bc0484a3
>>> and all commits in the branch at
>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commits/feature-thumbnails
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> I'm offline in the train right now so I cannot check the API you propose so 
>> my comments/questions are general:
>>
>> * Should this module be limited to thumbnails only or can we make it a more 
>> generic module in charge of handling image manipulations (and caching) in 
>> general (and thus including thumbnails)? I see this as replacing the old 
>> image plugin.
>
> The image manipulation module was the idea I had at first indeed.
> Unfortunately I later realized there were too much pre-requisites in
> order for me to do it in the timeframe I can dedicate to it. For
> example, there is the need of hooking a URI to an image
> transformation. Which means I would have to also invest time in the
> action module (I imagine).
> In the end I decided to leave the image transformations to the old
> image plugin, and go with a module dedicated to thumbnails for the
> rest - thus the name.
>
>>
>> * Re caching we should have an "active cache" working like this:
>> - Save the location of the image as part of the cache key. When the image is 
>> a page attachment, then the location is an Entity Reference to an 
>> attachment. We could/should also handle images on the FS.
>> - Have the cache be an EventListener listening to attachment events and have 
>> it refresh its cache when there's an attachment udpate
>> - Save the transformation details as part of the cache key.
>> - Save the modified images on the FS (FS cache) - that's the cache value.
>>
>> * We should replace all calls to the image plugin to use this new module and 
>> then move the image plugin to the legacy module.
>>
>> * As for caching information that user X has an avatar named Z.png I think 
>> this is not generic enough and shouldn't be in this image manipulation 
>> module. IMO it should be in a xwiki-user module in charge of handling users, 
>> and indeed that module could have a cache of user information in memory to 
>> prevent user document loading.
>
> No, that's not exactly what it's about. It's about caching information
> that property X points to an attachement reference Y. The avatar is
> just an illustration of that. IMO this need is generic enough when
> speaking about thumbnails. For a true image module, maybe not.
>
> Now the question is do we estimate this thumbnails module (that now
> rely on the old image plugin to actually do transformations) is
> acceptable enough to be integrated or should we wait until having a
> true image module in order to support nice thumbnails. Personnally
> while I definitetely share the vision of it. I won't have the time
> necessary to work on that generic image module in 3.2 timeframe (and
> likely not in 3.3). If we prefer to wait that's also fine by me : I
> can live with a patch on the image plugin and the thumbnails module as
> an external module.

Any other opinions ?

Jerome

>
> Jerome.
>
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
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