On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, >
> One of the bad things in the structure of the AppWithinMinutes is that all > new user classes are created inside AppWithinMinutes space. Caty, what are you talking about?.. Are you using the wizard? The wizard creates a new space for each application. Nothing is created inside the AppWithinMinutes space. > First of all is kind of hard to distinguish what are internal code pages > and what pages were created during my test (TestClass, TestHome, TestSheet, > etc.). Stop testing the AppWithinMinutes.WebHome page. Please take a look at the AppWithinMinutes.CreateApplication page. Thanks, Marius > Maybe some page name convension would be helpful for pages like: DBList, > Date, etc. > This mixing of pages will make harder also the export of one specific > application and it's pages. > > Just a thought, > Caty > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:19, Marius Dumitru Florea < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Caty.. I can see that you spent a lot of time testing but the only >> purpose of the AppWithinMinutes home page, as it is right now, is to >> expose the class editor and the live table generator in XE 3.3M2, >> which means it's temporary. This thread is about the AppWithinMinutes >> wizard I have committed yesterday, which, as I wrote in my mail, is >> located at AppWithinMinutes.CreateApplication page. I'm afraid some of >> your comments below are not relevant in the context of the wizard. I >> will reply to the relevant ones. >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi Marius, >> > >> > I'm gonna list some thoughts as I test what you did. I didn't read >> anything >> > that Ludo wrote so these will be my first impressions and not a >> > continuation of the discussion. Some items may be very fined grained, >> but I >> > will list them in order to remember them. >> > >> > *AppWithinMinutes.WebHome* >> > - Some fields validation about what fields are required or not. If you >> > press the buttons without entering anything in the fields you don't know >> if >> > something happened or not. >> > >> > - "Class Name" field - some suggest would be nice in order to know what >> > classes can be edited. Especially if I need to write them in Space.Page >> > form. Very nice that I can edit XWiki.XWikiUsers >> > >> > - "Create/Edit Class": I've entered "Class Name"='TestClass' and I was >> very >> > surprised that the title of that class was "Class: Test" and not "Class: >> > TestClass" >> > * >> > >> > ?editor=inline&sheet=AppWithinMinutes.ClassEditSheet* >> > - First time when you enter the editor, the pages "TestTemplate" and >> > "TestSheet" are displayed as non-created. Why don't you create them from >> > start? >> > >> > - Check icon's title is "Hide configuration panel" - should be "Apply >> > changes" or "Save configuration" or "Save" or "Save changes" or :) >> >> It doesn't save the changes. I'm fine with "Hide configuration panel >> and apply changes". >> >> > >> > - I cannot drag something at the start of my form or in between what >> fields >> > already exists. It adds the new field at the bottom and than I need to >> > reorder. Very annoying. >> >> I know, but it's not a priority IMO. >> >> > >> > - No error if I put the same "Name" on multiple fields. The error appears >> > on "Save". The error is not contextual. I mean to use the xError for the >> > specific problematic fields. >> >> I didn't have time to implement client-side validation. I agree it's >> important but we won't have it in the first version. >> >> > >> > - General remark: I really hate the "Editor: ---" thing. When you reload >> > the page it appears the WYSIWYG (because that is the default). Should >> write >> > "Default editor" instead of "---", because IMO "---" means "None" >> > >> > - On hitting "Enter" is always re-saves. Don't know if this is a good >> thing >> > or not, but is not an explicit user action. I did not hit the "Save" >> > myself: maybe I was just testing and I didn't want to make any >> modification >> > on the form (now my name is in the history and everybody will know I was >> > here :) ) >> > >> > - I would like to have the "Preview" button back in order to see how the >> > form looks like (even if it's an WYSIWYG mode somehow), but if I have my >> > configurations open. >> > >> > - I was expecting to see my generated form when I press "Save&View" or >> when >> > I go to the page AppWithinMinutes.TestClass (not an empty page) >> > >> > - /view/AppWithinMinutes/TestClass - I wanted to go back in the >> > AppWithinMinutes editor, I pressed "Edit": took me to "WYSIWYG", pressed >> > "Class" took me to class editor, then I remembered I need to press >> > "Inline". How do I get back? //Later//: "Edit Class" is only on the page >> > created for the livetable. >> > >> > - Adding "Number" and writing some characters in it didn't wield any >> error. >> > //Later//: Also when you create a new entry the default character value >> is >> > not present (because it was not a number), but if you put again >> characters >> > instead of numbers: they don't get displayed, but again no warning or >> > correction >> >> Falls in the "client-side validation" category. >> >> > >> > - "Configure" is kind of an "Advanced params" until I get to the "Static >> > List", when I am unable to edit the choices. I would prefer to have the >> > default selection when I hit the checkbox/radio only. If I double click >> on >> > the choice name can I have the "Configure" opened? In order to see that >> > there is the place where I need to change the values. Or open the >> > "Configure" if a double click the whole area. >> >> I don't like the double-clicking idea. >> >> > >> > - The preview only on "Hide configuration panel" is kind of annoying. >> Again >> > that entry should be named "Save changes" or something. I pressed >> "Multiple >> > Select", it auto-changed the "Display Type" to "checkbox", but this >> change >> > is not visible. I try to look for a way to mark my change, so I'm out of >> > field's area, so the toolbox for the field is not visible. Maybe if you >> > have the configuration zone open we should keep the field's toolbox, even >> > if we are not hovering the area: in order for the Check to be more >> visible. >> >> Keeping the toolbox visible when the configuration panel is shown is >> an interesting idea. >> >> > >> > - Again about the auto-preview: if I hit Enter in a input, the page gets >> > saved. Can't it also refresh the preview with the change I did also? I'm >> > talking about changing the "Rows" for a Textarea zone: put "4", pressed >> > "Enter", page gets saved, but in order to get the textarea resized I need >> > to refresh the page or hit "Hide configuration panel". >> >> > Obs: After adding "Static list" or "Checkbox" fields the save behavior on >> > inputs disappeared. (not sure this is the reason) >> >> I think this is just the browser behavior. >> >> > >> > - "Static List" values - missing an active state for the Choice being >> > edited. The hover color, should be preserved to mark the active value >> being >> > edited. >> >> Agree. >> >> > >> > - Not sure what "Sort" does. I don't see any change in the sorting. >> > Shouldn't the choice be rearranged? >> > >> > - Regarding the "Date" field: would be nicer if the "06/11/2011 14:41:26" >> > info would be presented in the "cds_top" instead of "cds_footer" and have >> > the "X" instead of "Ok" near this (at the top). >> > If it's at the top is easier to compare the "current value" with the "new >> > value". >> > "@" is kind of cryptic and geekish. You have place to put "Time", >> > especially if you remove the "Ok" and make it an "X" >> > >> > - Not sure what "Update class template" and "Update class sheet" mean >> but I >> > don't care. Could be in an advanced configuration zone for the form >> > (class). >> > >> > >> > *AppWithinMinutes.WebHome* >> > >> > "Generate Livetable" >> > - I've entered a non existing class "NewClass" and a random target - >> > worked, but maybe I should have an option to create that non existing >> class >> > somewhere >> > >> > - If I put "NewClass" in the "Class Name" and nothing in the "Target Page >> > Name" takes me to the editor (AppWithinMinutes/NewClass?editor=inline), >> not >> > to the Livetable Generator - hmmm >> > >> > - "Columns" is always white initially or after an add operation - could >> be >> > a text there "Add column" (with gray + italic) to encourage clicking >> > >> > - After the table was generated there are some problems with translations >> > in the header: "$msg.get('xe.livetable.select.all')", "$l10n_value", etc. >> > but this is a snapshot >> > >> >> > - I tried to open in another tab the "Add new entry" :) >> >> I know, but I didn't want to spend time on this (read the URL fragment >> on page load and show the dialog). >> >> > >> > - "Edit class" is not working - takes me to the WYSIWYG >> > >> > - "Add new entry" works, but the new page is not displayed in the >> livetable >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > Marius, very nice work. Hope my feedback will help you. >> >> It helps. Thanks, >> Marius >> >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Caty >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 14:25, Marius Dumitru Florea < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi devs, >> >> >> >> I just committed a first version of the AppWithinMinutes wizard. 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