Hi Benjamin,

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Benjamin Lanciaux <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
> [..]
> About the reported bugs, they are all fixed (language, scroll bars etc.).
> That was due to a bad html import in xwiki.org whereas it worked well
> everywhere else.
> [..]
>
> You can check the survey by clicking on the following link :
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2012

Indeed, it looks a lot better now.

I'd suggest two small tweaks:
- potentially highlight a bit the listed sections/themes
- if possible, push the bold recommendations text below the XWiki icon

Regards,
Florin

>
>
> Thanks for helping
>
> Benjamin
>
> 2012/1/24 Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]>
>
> > On 01/24/2012 02:53 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 01/23/2012 12:19 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi devs,
> >>>>
> >>>> In 2009 we launched a survey on xwiki.org:
> >>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Main/**SurveyXWikiFeatures2009<
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2009>
> >>>>
> >>>> The results were published here:
> >>>> -
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+**Results<
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+Results>
> >>>> - http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Blog/**FeatureStatus20120119<
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/FeatureStatus20120119>
> >>>>
> >>>> The idea is to do that same with a new survey. Benjamin Lanciaux (from
> >>>> XWiki SAS) has prepared one here:
> >>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/**bin/view/Main/**SurveyXWikiFeatures2012<
> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures2012>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know if you're ok and I'll send the survey on the user
> >>>> list.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On top of Florin's remarks, I'd like to add that, in my opinion, the
> >>> themes
> >>> are not that well composed.
> >>>
> >>> Applications and App Store mixes several different things. On one hand
> it
> >>> includes something as generic as "More apps bundled", then it goes to
> >>> something as specific as "Glossary". Plus, it includes the "XWiki
> >>> Network"
> >>> which isn't something that the open source community handles. Why are
> >>> there
> >>> only two specific apps mentioned? Was it somehow determined that these
> >>> are
> >>> the most important apps requested by the community?
> >>>
> >>> Dev Tools: I'm not sure we should have this section at all. What is the
> >>> target of this survey? People that can understand and have an opinion
> on
> >>> this section aren't casual users. We're mixing user-facing features and
> >>> platform internals. Most of the items proposed here, like the new data
> >>> model
> >>> or interface extensions, can only be evaluated by experienced
> committers.
> >>> Others, such as "Syntax coloring" and "Livetable improvements", might
> fit
> >>> better in the "User dev tools" section. There is a risk that these very
> >>> technical items be considered important only by a handful of
> committers,
> >>> thus getting a very low score, although they are a precondition for
> >>> implementing other features proposed in the survey. Typo:
> >>> "Translate->Translatable document objects".
> >>>
> >>> Quality: This is another section that seems to mix a broad range of
> >>> topics,
> >>> from UI/UX improvements to internal aspects like LDAP, and build stuff
> >>> like
> >>> automated integration tests. Maybe instead of "Run Automated UI
> >>> Tests..." we
> >>> should say something that most users can relate to, such as "Better
> >>> quality
> >>> assurance for the supported browsers and databases". Why is multipage
> >>> export
> >>> related to quality? And will users understand the difference between
> this
> >>> multipage export and the one in the "Wiki Management" section? Typo:
> >>> "Sync
> >>> big (more then->than 2000 users) LDAP/AD groups".
> >>>
> >>> Ease of Use: I don't see the difference between some of the items here
> >>> and
> >>> items from the previous category.
> >>>
> >>> Help: I'd rename this section "Documentation". For "Shortcut help" I'd
> >>> link
> >>> to the design page where it's pretty neatly detailed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>  Universal Access: This should be renamed to Mobile Access, since it
> only
> >>> lists mobile-related items. "Universal" access implies more than a
> phone,
> >>> and should include stuff like better support for R2L languages, better
> >>> support for screen readers, a voice stylesheet, better stylesheet for
> >>> print,
> >>> stylesheets for small screens and for TVs. If you want to keep the
> >>> "Universal Access" title, then some of the items I mentioned should be
> >>> included in the survey as well.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't think it's bad to have a generic category name as "Universal
> >> access" even if we list only mobile related items. For me this is an
> >> open door for users to suggest features in that domain. Listing other
> >> items is not bad either but may send the wrong message that there is
> >> already someone (e.g. XWiki SAS) interested in implementing that
> >> feature, which might not be true.
> >>
> >
> > I would like to work on that, although I don't think it's a priority.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >> Marius
> >>
> >>
> >>> Wiki Management: What's the difference between "Multipage Export" from
> >>> the
> >>> Quality section, "Multipage Export UI" and "Better Wiki Import/Export"?
> >>>
> >>> What kind of user are you: What does "developer" mean? Is it a
> committer
> >>> developing the XWiki platform itself, or idoes it refer to external
> users
> >>> that develop applications on top of XWiki for their own wikis / for
> their
> >>> employers?
> >>>
> >>> We should include a final big textarea where users can write any
> comments
> >>> they'd like to share with us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In general:
> >>> - too many abbreviations
> >>> - I'd link most of the items to their associated Jira issue or design
> >>> page,
> >>> if they have one
> >>> - some items are too cryptic or broad, like "Messaging UI" or "Improve
> >>> print
> >>> option", while others are too long, like "New data model for accessing
> >>> and
> >>> manipulating XWiki entities (needed for nested spaces for ex, global
> >>> versioning, rights on XObjects, translations on XObjects, etc)"
> >>>
> >>
> >
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