On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

> On 01/17/2012 04:24 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> Hi devs,
>> 
>> I'd like to propose forking wikimodel (http://code.google.com/p/wikimodel/) 
>> and move its source code into our code base in XWiki Rendering as a separate 
>> module for now.
>> 
>> Motivation
>> ========
>> 
>> * Wikimodel has been inactive for years (since 2009). Actually that's not 
>> quite true, there's been one developer working on it regularly, it's Thomas 
>> Mortagne…
>> 
>> * We heavily depend on wikimodel in the XWiki Rendering module (for our 
>> syntax parsers) which is a key module for XWiki
>> 
>> * It's more difficult for us to contribute to the wikimodel project since it 
>> means:
>> ** committing in a different project with different rules
>> ** there's nobody doing releases on the wikimodel projet and we need the 
>> releases to be synced with our releases since otherwise we cannot release on 
>> a SNAPSHOT dependency
>> ** there's no community there so it's not fun and doesn't help for quality 
>> control/reviews/etc
>> ** since we push XWiki Commons and XWiki Rendering to Maven Central we also 
>> need the wikimodel releases to be pushed to Central which is not happening 
>> now
>> 
>> * The wikimodel project has a different scope than our need. Mikhail (owner 
>> and admin of Wikiodel - not active since 2009 - some commits here and there) 
>> wanted it to remain only for wiki syntaxes. We added support for HTML 
>> parsing in it but Mikhail never liked it and wanted us to move it to XWiki.
>> 
>> * We have some impedance mistmatch between the wikimodel model and the xwiki 
>> rendering model which causes us to do some circumvolution in the code which 
>> leads to issues still beeing open in our JIRA (they've been opened for a 
>> long time now)
>> 
>> * We believe wikimodel would benefit from a larger and active community 
>> within the XWiki ecosystem. Wikimodel has been stagnating for years and we'd 
>> like it to live on and evolve.
>> 
>> Action Plan
>> =========
>> 
>> Thus Thomas and me are proposing to do the following:
>> 
>> * Move the sources in a new rendering module as is and use it as a library 
>> (same as now except we rename the module name and release it under the XWiki 
>> umbrella).
>> * Modify all header to put our LGPL headers everywhere
>> * We keep the attribution as is recommended by the ASL (see 
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#Distribute-changes) by 
>> adding a comment to all sources explaining where the source come from and in 
>> which license it was and who authored the initial code and how XWiki 
>> committers have participated to the wikimodel project. We also put that 
>> information in the NOTICE file.
>> * We modify the source code slowly over time to integrate it cleanly without 
>> our code and remove the hacks we had to do, and we bring improvements
>> * We post a mail on the wikimodel mailing list explaining all this and 
>> inviting the current wikimodel committers to become committers on the xwiki 
>> rendering module (provided they agree to follow our dev rules). We also 
>> explain how contributors can contribute (link to jira, link to github for 
>> pull requests, etc)
> 
> +1.
> 
> What name will it have? It can't have the exact name as before, but it would 
> be OK to just prefix it, like xwiki-rendering-wikimodel or something.

xwiki-rendering-wikimodel for now. The idea is that this module will disappear 
as we progress and its code will move in -api and -parser modules.

> An estimated timeline? Do you want to do this in 3.5 or 4.0?

4.0

> Do we remove code that we don't use? For example, will we keep both WEM and 
> WOM?

Good question. We'll need to decide this as we progress. WOM isn't implemented 
AFAIK.

I'm starting the move now.

Thanks
-Vincent

>> Related question (not part of the vote)
>> =============================
>> 
>> * We could decide to move XWiki Commons and XWiki Rendering under the ASL 
>> since they're libraries and as libraries the ASL is the license that makes 
>> it the easier possible to use from all other licenses. Right now ASL code 
>> cannot use our Rendering module because we're LGPL.
>> 
>> Here's my +1 to this plan.
>> 
>> I'm also currently +1 to brainstorm about moving XWiki Commons and XWiki 
>> Rendering to the ASL.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent

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