Paul, mentors, Just to get it out of the way, please don`t confuse gsoc.myxwiki.org (the wiki I`ve just deprecated) with gsoc.xwiki.org (redirect to the GoogleSummerOfCode space on dev.xwiki.org).
I actually found out about gsoc.myxwiki.org this year, noticed that it was updated for 2011 and thought that we could use it for 2012 as well. However, after a better look at it, I`ve noticed that it has been used only around 2009 and it was quite abandoned (and full of spam users), most likely due to the fact that (as Vincent and Thomas underlined) we want students to behave just like regular contributors/committers. Regarding the need for a place where to monitor and report the student's progress, we could have that on devs.xwiki.org as well but (as you suggested) maybe under the GoogleSummerOfCode space. There really is no need for a separate wiki (duplicates users and isolates visibility). So an idea could be to extend the ProjectClass by adding a new TextArea field (i.e. 'progress') where the student and mentor can list milestones and general progress of the student that is 'assigned' to the project. We mark the project's status as 'Selected' and, at the end of the summer, we update the status field to 'Successfully terminated' or 'Failed'. This workflow is suggested by the current design of the ProjectClass, it is only missing a 'progress' field as I`ve just explained. Does the TextArea field offer enough flexibility for reporting the student's progress? Any other fields that might be missing? Thanks, Eduard On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht <[email protected]> wrote: > Eduard, > > don't you want to keep gsoc.xwiki.org for the GSoC specific work? > In my earlier post, I suggested the student to create two posts: > - one design page, which will live after the GSoC period if the feature > does > - one GSoC process page documenting such things as milestones and > assessable activities > I think the second really does not belong to devs.xwiki.org, unless it's > a space for GSoC (which would be ok as well). > > paul > > > Le 3 mai 2012 à 13:29, Eduard Moraru a écrit : > > > Yes, you are right Vincent and Thomas. > > > > So, to reiterate, students should use > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/< > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/WebHome>to > > organize and document the work that is going to be done. Just create a > > new entry for your feature and follow the remaining indications (make a > > jira issue, send a mail to the community asking for feedback on your > > documented plan of action, etc.). > > > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > Thanks, > > Eduard > > > > P.S.: I have added a mention on the gsoc.myxwiki.org wiki that it is > > deprecated (pointing to devs.xwiki.org) and have disabled user > registration. > > > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> On May 2, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Paul, students, > >>>> > >>>> The best place for GSoC students to work in, when it comes to > >> architecture, > >>>> design, documentation etc., is the students' wiki: > >> http://gsoc.myxwiki.org > >>> > >>> I don't quite agree. For me a GSOC student must be treated exactly like > >> any contributor. > >>> > >>> Thus for me the best place for architecture, design is > >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/WebHome > >>> > >>> More generally they should use the exact same tools as all xwiki > >> developers/contributors are using so that we don't create silos: mailing > >> list, irc, design page, etc. > >> > >> I agree with Vincent on this, I don't see the point in isolating GSOC > >> students on a special wiki when we have a place for this already. > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >>>> The students' wiki needs a bit more maintaining, but it should be > >> usable. > >>>> I`ve done some minor decorating for GSoC 2012. > >>>> > >>>> The students need to register a new user (the xiwki.org user does not > >> work > >>>> since it's a different farm). Besides wiki pages, they can also use > the > >>>> Blog if they don`t already have one :). > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Eduard > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Paul Libbrecht <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Sorry to answer myself, a few precisions: > >>>>> > >>>>> Le 26 avr. 2012 à 13:24, Paul Libbrecht a écrit : > >>>>>> - one page about her Google Summer of Code work where, for example, > >> the > >>>>> schedule she presented in her proposal is presented to the public > and, > >>>>> where we shall elaborate it with milestones that are assessable > >> somehow. > >>>>> > >>>>> I would suggest it also includes the following which I'm happy to > >>>>> complement: > >>>>> > >>>>> - detail the incorporation alternatives so that we know what kind of > >>>>> versioning we base on (e.g.: very successful early: incorporation in > >> trunk; > >>>>> successful at end: a simple pull request; simple cases: a standalone > >>>>> contribution with installation instructions, ...) > >>>>> > >>>>> - software availability at milestones (e.g. unit-tests, docs, can be > >> tried > >>>>> by someone, ...) > >>>>> > >>>>> - describe the expected feedback of community and mentors at each > phase > >>>>> > >>>>>> Eduard, someone, are there example for such pages? > >>>>>> It would be possible to replace the project page: > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/inline/GoogleSummerOfCode/SOLRsearchcomponent > >>>>>> but I think this is more a "proposal", or? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> - one design page about the SOLR component. There are many design > >> pages > >>>>> so Savitha, go ahead and get inspired. > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe the page of Fabio is a start? > >>>>> > >>>>> paul > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> devs mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> devs mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> devs mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Thomas Mortagne > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
