Hi, On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 04:01 AM, savitha sundaramurthy wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> While trying to retrieve the search results had the following doubts. >> >> *Problem: * >> * >> * >> * *Say XWiki has three languages English, Spanish, French. I >> give a query in English(some *proper noun*) , >> should it return the documents pertaining only to english or it can >> return documents pertaining to other languages too? >> >> If the scenario is such that it retrieves the documents irrespective of >> languages, I have few ideas to deal with it. >> >> 1) We can get the documents, merge them, add the scores and give it a high >> rating. This would help to avoid super >> results such as a display of a different match in each language to some >> extent. >> 2) Make it a part of facet search , where search results could be >> differentiated base don language. >> >> Would be really helpful to gain your suggestions. >> > > XWiki is pretty unique in the way it handles multilingualism, so I can't > think of an example to follow. > > Also, how a multilingual XWiki is going to be used depends a lot on the > particular organization using it, so one generic solution might not make > everybody happy, so multiple solutions to chose from (in the > administration) might be the proper way to go. > > Here's how I would like things: > > When searching for something, let's say "scorpions", and my current > language is English, I see first documents that are written in English: > > " > Search results for "Scorpions": > > [100%] Scorpion > [ 95%] The Scorpions > [ 50%] Scorpio > " > > After that, we also search for a few top hits in all the other languages > except English, and if we have strong hits (let's say score above 75%), we > display something like: > > " > You might be interested in these results in other languages: > > [ 98%] [de] The Scoripions > [ 90%] [fr] Scorpiones > [ 89%] [ro] Scorpion > > [[Search for "Scorpions" in every language]] > " > > Now, I'm not sure when exactly to display this: > - every time when there are hits with a score above a threshold > - only when there are hits with scores higher than the best scoring result > in the current language > - only when there are few results in the current language (less than 5) > IMO we really need an advanced search. From there you could filter the spaces, if the results you want are attachments, if the pages were created in a certain period, how many results you want to have, etc. Having a language filter in this advanced search makes very much sense. Although when I first read the topic I was thinking about it from a developer point of view and tried to squeeze all the results together in a view, then I thought why would someone want to see results in different languages? For example: - I use the google.com site because I don't want to receive pages written in romanian; - if I would want to have also romanian pages I can go advanced setting and select also Romanian for the search results; - now I'm pretty sure I don't want to see pages in german or latvian or any other language (although in the google example I could easily translate them if they would have great quality content). Seeing that some pages have what I want is ok, but I won't be able to understand that content (except using a translation service) if those pages are in other languages than my selected language. The merging of scores for a document that has multiple translations is especially confusing, because if the interface doesn't mention in what language version of the page it has found my query, I will open the english version for example and I won't find anything there for my use. What I would propose, besides advanced filters, is: - by default show results only from current user language; - allow to search and display for multiple/all languages only if you are using the advanced search; (display the results with the language mark [en, de, etc.], sort by relevance); - suggest results from other languages versions (like sergiu mentioned) if there are no results for the current language + hint for advanced search. (This case may be when the page I look for haven't been yet translated and at least I should see that the wiki contains results on my query, but not what I needed). IMO multiple translations of the same page should have similar (equal) scores. Seeing in my search results that the french version of the page I need has a higher score than the english version I need doesn't give me any insight and I will still open the english one. Hope this helps, Caty > -- > Sergiu Dumitriu > http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/**mailman/listinfo/devs<http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs> > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
