On 07/02/2012 01:32 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:

On 06/15/2012 08:28 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:

Hi devs,

Now that all the scripts on the Internets are implemented as jQuery
plugins, should we bite the bullet and make it easier for extensions
developers to integrate such scripts ?
Note it would not necessarily mean we use it ourselves in web/XE.

If we don't do something about it, there is the risk that many extensions
bring their own jQuery to the party, which will translate in slower page
loads and more importantly a less enjoyable extension developer
experience.

An alternative idea would be an "official" jQuery extension (with a JSX)
that other extensions can depend upon, should they need jQuery.

What do you think ?

Jerome


Using jQuery in XWiki is not a very easy task, so indeed it's a good idea
to provide our own integration known to work.

Personally I'm not a fan of jQuery, but I agree that it's the most popular
JS framework, and most JS widgets/libraries are built on top of it, so you
have my +1.


Not a huge fan either, though there are some interesting things prototype
does not have, like the "live" observers.



Packaging, I think that it should be placed on the filesystem in
resources/js/jquery/, it shouldn't be used by default, and we try to bundle
the most recent version available at the time of the release. If someone
needs a more recent version, they should update XWiki as well.



When you say bundled, you mean its script tag in the rendered pages ?  Or
just present in the resources/ folder on the FS ?

When I say "bundled", I mean that it's going to be present in the resources directory in the XE builds.

I would say, script tag included, otherwise it does not solve much.

I'm not sure yet... On one hand I agree that it's not really going to solve the problem if users have to use a specific jsfx call with parameters to get it working, but on the other hand loading a pretty significant JS library all the time just for some potential custom extensions isn't a smart move for performance.

I would prefer a very simple mechanism to trigger the activation of jQuery, but I can't find one simple and generic enough.

The most basic thing would be to hard-code some behavior in the JSFX plugin implementation, so that a simple $jsfx.use('jquery') would use the right path and the right parameters (defer=false), and make sure that one is listed before the other extensions.

Jerome

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Sergiu Dumitriu
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