On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:

> The list of what has been tested:
> 
> * For intermediary releases (Milestones, RC1) will be the newly added
> features and will be available in "Test Report" section of the RN. The
> "Tested Browsers" and "Tested Databases" will also be specified for
> everything that was manually tested.
> 
> * For final releases, given we plan to test everything, from the RN we
> will add a link to a different page which contains the list of
> Test/Pass results and the tested environments.

You're creating the Test application so all you need is to give a link to the 
Livetable page passing in parameter the version.

Thanks
-Vincent

> 
> Regards,
> Sorin B.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Sorin Burjan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Vincent,
>>> 
>>> The MTR Template has been corrected so it won't be misleading since
>>> 4.1.1. You can check it at
>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/TestReports/ManualTestReportTemplate
>>> As you can see we're not misleading anymore, since they are all marked
>>> as "Not Tested" by default.
>>> 
>>> The MTR is executed right after we release RC1. For Milestones, I only
>>> test the newly added features from the Release Notes.
>>> 
>>> The point of this vote is to not instantiate a MTR for Milestones and
>>> RC1 (unlike we did until now), because if we instantiate one for each,
>>> it would have all the items as "Not Tested", which is useless IMO.
>>> I was proposing to drop creating a blank MTR for Milestones and RC1,
>>> but have one for each Final version. (which will be filled with
>>> Pass/Fail between RC1 and Final).
>>> 
>>> Now about what we put in the intermediary releases notes, if there is
>>> no MTR testing, we can put which features have been tested manually
>>> from the Release Notes (as Silvia suggested), or put the browser and
>>> the database on which we run our UI-tests (as Marius suggested)
>>> 
>>> WDYT ?
>> 
>> My proposal is to remove the notion of MTR at all. We don't need it and 
>> nobody cares about it. The only thing important is the list of what has been 
>> tested, in which version and in which environment.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sorin B.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Sorin,
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Sorin Burjan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello devs,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want to cast a vote regarding the following proposal:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remove the section about manual testing and the link to the MTR's from
>>>>> M1, M2 and RC1 Release Notes, since we test against MTR only after we
>>>>> release RC1.
>>>>> This means that we will have a MTR only for final releases, which will
>>>>> be linked from the RN page of the final version.
>>>>> After releasing each M1, M2 and RC1, only the newly added features are 
>>>>> tested.
>>>>> The rationale behind this is that ATM we point a link to a MTR (for
>>>>> every minor release) but the MTR will be empty ("Not Tested"), so this
>>>>> renders it useless for minor releases.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Waiting for your votes/opinions
>>>> 
>>>> IMO we should keep the current rule which is currently:
>>>> * Add the list of the browsers and DBs that have been tested for the RN 
>>>> corresponding to the version. For ex, if you test on FF X for version 
>>>> 4.2M1 then you should put that in the RN for 4.2M1. Of course if nothing 
>>>> has been tested you don't put something empty, you just keep the section 
>>>> but add a one line saying that no manual tests have been performed for 
>>>> this version.
>>>> 
>>>> What needs to be improved is the accuracy of the MTR which currently is 
>>>> misleading since all items are marked as tested whereas only a few are 
>>>> really tested at a given point in time.
>>>> 
>>>> So what the user need to see is the exact list of what has been tested, 
>>>> and on which browser and which DB.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>> 
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