On 11/09/2012 10:46 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]>wrote:

Caty, This is great. I'm very looking forward this. Some remarks : - The skin will break the system of panels (in particular the panel wizard), since there is no left panel anymore. For me this is not a problem, we just have to agree on that. - I think it would be a good time to think about the introduction of a pre-processor like LESS to ease the customization/derivation of such a skin. (BTW bootstrap itself uses LESS for that purpose). - This will be also be a good time to re-work and generally harmonize the markup of some UI components. Any timeline for the implementation ?

The implementation could be decided for the 5.x timeline, but we need to find a main developer to be in charge of this and really evaluate the amount of work needed. There are several implementation decision that needs to be voted if we decide to go with this skin, like you said panels, menus, administration layout, rewriting some application's layout, etc. Regarding LESS, Bootstrap works with LESS (both server and client side) and there is also another project that replaces LESS with Sass to work with Bootstrap. This is another implementation decision, since we could adopt LESS or even Bootstrap or just make a separation of skins, by having a really "base"/"core"/"api" skin (that in general should contain just the basis, like typography, grids, reset, forms, etc. and that we would need to write) and another skin on top of it (that should define the layout, skin colors and additional styling) that could be more easily changed. We could use LESS or just expand our velocity macros (to have more 'mixins' like functionality) and more "ColorThemes"/"Skin" variables.


I see a couple of immediate benefits in adopting LESS over keeping the functionnality in velocity : - we can benefit from the upstream customization of bootstrap (I'm talking about this : https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/blob/master/less/variables.less)
- it's more "standard" and than our velocity macros/variables
- there's no way to implement "generic mixins" in velocity (in a way that's not awkward to declare)

But indeed, in the end that's an implementation decision, I'm just dropping the idea here.

Jerome

Thanks, Caty

Definitely +1 Thanks, Jerome On 11/08/2012 05:59 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:

Hi devs, I've been working in the 4.3 Roadmap for a new skin proposal. You can see it at http://incubator.myxwiki.org/**xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/**Skin4x<http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Skin4x> I recommend looking at the "Annotations Overview" gallery in order to see the different elements of the skin and some explanations. I've made also separate pages for different components of the skin. For example, you can see more information about how the menus work at http://incubator.myxwiki.org/**xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/**Skin4xMenus<http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Skin4xMenus> For each component you can also see how the elements scale and see the responsive layout. For the record, the proposal is made by using Bootstrap ( http://twitter.github.com/**bootstrap/<http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/> ). Thanks, Caty ______________________________**_________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/**mailman/listinfo/devs<http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs>

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