Hi Vincent, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Paul Libbrecht <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Vincent, > > > > we are more and more on the side of "usage analytics". > > While I do not know the statistics module, I think a homogenization and > up-scaling of the activity-stream together with the statistics module would > be really useful and would support the installers or admin into raising > usability. > > For the AS it's a given since it's unmaintainable as it is (written in > wiki pages) and will be rewritten in Java, taking into account some not > currently implemented use cases. > > For the stats, yes it would be a good idea too. First we have to assess > performances of the stats since a big goal is to make XWiki faster and I've > heard plenty of times that stats are disabled because of performance issues > so we need to measure that first. > > > Maybe also spreading the practice of usability testing would be really > useful. > > Sure, if you have some process (especially automated) to do that, it would > be great. > Could you please enlighten me about what you mean? Unless you know really good robots, I'm not sure how you intend to automatically perform a process that requires assessing humans while they're using an application? An option could be to log actions on myxwiki.org to try and get actual user activity data after each upgrade. Is that what you had in mind? From a general POV we're already doing some kind of usability testing by > having xwiki open source and releasing often and having users discuss > issues on our mailing lists/jira. > It's a start, but it's very far from real usability testing. Thanks, Guillaume > But if you have specific ideas, please shoot, so that we can discuss them > :) > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > I know how to do so for search (and had advised that to Savitha at the > time, I could find examples). > > I do not know well how to do so for other tasks but maybe this can be > found out. > > > > Paul > > > > > > Le 6 janv. 2013 à 00:34, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit : > > > >> On 01/03/2013 06:53 AM, Vincent Massol wrote: > >>> Hi everyone, > >>> > >>> We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle (only one more > release, 4.5, which should be out at the end of January) and thus we need > to start thinking about 5.x > >>> (see > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/VersioningAndReleasePractices) > >>> > >>> As a reminder here are our past themes: > >>> * 3.x: Theme 1: "Building Apps and Distributing them" (This means for > example that the Extension Manager in progress is a key element of XE 3.x. > It also means making it easier to create applications in XE.), Theme 2: > "Polishing" > >>> * 4.x: Theme 1 (top priority): Ease of use, Theme 2: Quality > >>> > >>> Internally at XWiki SAS we've had a brainstorming meeting with > everyone to discuss what could be the main themes for XWiki 5.x > >>> > >>> The result is the following: > >>> > >>> Theme: Speed and Simplicity > >>> ----------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Mission: > >>> > >>> Improve XWiki's usage for new and regular users by improving Usability > and Usage Speed > >>> in order to make XWiki simpler and faster both from a pure performance > point of view > >>> and from are user interface point of view. > >>> > >>> > >>> Technical details: > >>> > >>> - Individual Feature Improvement from a Usability perspective > including speed of access (real time updates, commenting in activity stream) > >>> - General Usability Improvements on XE and XEM for simplicity > >>> - Technical Rewrite of certain features (activity stream) for > performance or architecture reasons > >>> - General Performance Improvement of XWiki (page loading, rendering > time) > >>> - Bug Fixing in general > >> > >> +1. > >> > >> -- > >> Sergiu Dumitriu > >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
