On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/02/2013 09:55 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> We've closing the 4.x cycle and here's the result of bugs fixed vs bugs 
>>>>> created during the past 360 days:
>>>>> http://snag.gy/MZxh7.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> As you can see:
>>>>> * More issues were created than fixed: 919 created vs 844 fixed
>>>>> * During the whole time, the red has been winning
>>>>>
>>>>> What this means is that overall we're loosing the quality war. Of course 
>>>>> bugs are not evenly distributed and it may happen that created bugs are 
>>>>> peripheral but they're still bugs and since they've been reported they 
>>>>> have affected users…
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus I propose that for the 5.x cycle we take some drastic action and do 
>>>>> a Bug Fixing Day every week in en effort to have green be the default (ie 
>>>>> more bugs fixed than created).
>>>>>
>>>>> At least it would be great if we could try it for a while and see how it 
>>>>> goes.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you agree, what about doing that every Thursday, starting with the 
>>>>> 21st of February(since 11th is the final 4.5 release)?
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good. What happens with the monthly BFD that was supposed to
>>>> happen on the 7th?
>>>
>>> Good question. Since we still haven't released XWiki 4.5 final, I think we 
>>> should drop it and replace it with the weekly BFD starting 21st
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>
>> Maybe replace it with something else, like fixing deprecated calls.
>
> 1) I think this is a bit dangerous to do in RC so close to the final 4.5 
> release, it's relatively easy to introduce a regression by fixing deprecation 
> calls.
> 2) The idea is that all our energy is focused on finishing 4.5 and releasing 
> it ASAP

I was not talking about the 7th actually (missread the message it
seems), I was taking about monthly BFD en general during the 5.x.

>
> That said, I'm fine with whatever the majority wants.
>
> BTW on the same idea, I think we need to organize a PullRequest Day after we 
> start 5.0 to reduce the # of open PR/patches and favor contributions.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>> To reduce the burnout, we should see each BFD not as a hard push to
>>>> close as many bugs as possible, but as a day when devs are free to work
>>>> on bugs, not on roadmap features.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: To see past BFD events, see:
>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices#HXWikiDays
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