On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Caty, > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:08 PM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > XWiki Flavors are a set of predefined extensions having a specific use > > case in mind. XWiki Flavors can be considered specializations of XWiki > > instances suited for different purposes like public websites, > > intranets, content sharing, project management, community status, > > business intelligence, etc. > > > > Scenario: You want to install XWiki. The installer will propose > > different 'flavors' and will install automatically all required > > extensions. This way you will have a product close to your initial > > needs. You can later refine it by installing / uninstalling other > > extensions. > > > > So when I first thought about the process of installing a Flavor I > > imagined that I could customize what I wanted from the Flavor and > > select just the things I need. Actually for me Flavors were like > > categories with subcategories, and more of a classification system, > > than a packaging one. > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Flavours/customizedInstall.png > > > > Also another difference in my vision is that I had a Base Package that > > contains the common denominator for all Flavors. The Base Package > > should contain basic mechanics for managing content and users. > > Selecting no flavor will still result in having basic wiki features > > (page creation, attachments, history, users, etc.). > > > > After some discussions with Eduard I understood that Flavors could be > > defined as extensions and they could contain just a list of > > dependencies on other extensions. The Extension Manager will install > > the 'exact' list it gets from the definition without the ability to > > exclude some dependencies. > > Indeed. > > > I've watched the 'recent' mails about XWiki Flavors [1] [2] [3] [4] > > and for me the conclusion is clear: we will never agree on what > > starting features are the best and that will solve everybody's > > problems. But that is ok and normal and the strength of XWiki is it's > > extensibility. > > > > So the next idea was to have a Flavor Creator that will allow users to > > create their own collections of extensions. This collection should be > > then published to extensions.xwiki.org and could appear in the > > installer list as suggestions. > > Some thoughts: > > * Yes, the idea is that anyone can contribute a flavor on xwiki.org, > since it's an extension like any other (it would just have a new type, > called "flavor" since we don't have this ATM). The DW will list all flavors > it can find from e.x.o. This is where we need some ways to bring the best > flavors to the top. My idea was to add ratings to the Repository app for > that > I agree with this. IMO, we should bring back the idea of extension types (including this new "flavour" type) and, as you`ve mentioned, add things like ratings. Also, this should be reflected in the EM UI to allow a user to do browsing (by extension types) and not only searching (which is a bit intimidating to new users). Thanks, Eduard > * Also, in the DW the user should be allowed to not install any flavor so > that he can then install extensions one by one if he so wishes > > * Re the base package there's no need to have one since extensions declare > their require dependencies > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Flavours/flavorCreator.png > > > > If Application Within Minutes let's you create your own applications, > > the Flavor Creator would let you make packages of extensions for a > > specific purpose. This way we strengthen XWiki's extensibility and we > > let the users take the power and customize the solutions that are > > perfect for them. > > Sounds good. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Just some ideas. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > [1] [Idea]"Community" flavor > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/2e3fdm3hfuh54vpr > > [2] [Idea] XWiki Project Development Flavor > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/334vzyytfvlppmri > > [3] Idea collection minimal xwiki configuration > > http://markmail.org/thread/abma4pzuq2ooy6as > > [4] [UserStory] Wiki Archetypes > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/jp35ackl2puuscjv > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
