On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Vincent, > > My comments below: > > 2013/10/1 Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi devs ! > > > > > > In 5.2, we have introduced Workspace Application in XE. Now, we should > go > > > further and merge Wiki Application with Workspaces. > > > > > > = New idea = > > > * Add a "hidden" field to the Wiki. For example, I would like to be > able > > to > > > create wiki: > > > ** which can not be seen by others > > > ** which does not appear in searches > > > ** e.g: workspacetemplate, or on a farm if I don't want people to know > > that > > > I host a company AND its competitor > > > > So if i understand correctly: > > * This "hidden" field would be in the wiki descriptor right? > > * If the user selects "show hidden documents" (which might need to be > > renamed to something more generic now) the wiki would be visible and > appear > > in searches/etc, right? > > > > Yes, but we can refine this concept. We could imagine that hidden wikis > should be visible by administrators only. > > > > > > > = Options = > > > * In your wiki, do you want to have the "Home" menu? > > > > See comments on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9518 > > > > > * In your wiki, do you want to create your own users? > > > > I would not phrase it like this. Rather: "Allow local users". If enabled > > then global users would work too, in addition to the ability to create > > local users. > > > > OK. > > > > > > > = XARs and template = > > > * The home menu is enabled only if the user want it (trivial) > > > > How is that different from above (ie > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9518)? > > > > > * The registration button should redirect to the home wiki depending on > > the > > > configuration (trivial) > > > > Why based on configuration? Why not redirect automatically when the user > > doesn't allow local users? > > > > It is why I meant. > > > > > > > * Disable XWiki.AdminRegistrationSheet, XWiki.AdminUsersSheet from the > > > Administration (depending on the configuration) > > > > Ok so if the wiki doesn't allow local users then don't show admin options > > related to users. Good. > > > > > * Create a new UI, partially based on the current WorkspaceManager and > > > WikiManager spaces. > > > > Any more details on this? :) > > > > Not for now ;) > > > > > > > = API = > > > * Create a new API: xwiki-platform-wiki. > > > * The old modules (xwiki-platform-wiki-manager and > > > xwiki-platform-workspace) go into legacy, and we mark them as > deprecated. > > > * The new API will use the new modules of Vincent: > > > > > > https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/compare/feature-resource-and-wiki-modules(wiki-descriptor) > > > > > > = Proposal for the API = > > > * xwiki-platform-wiki > > > ** xwiki-platform-wiki-descriptor > > > *** xwiki-platform-wiki-descriptor-api > > > **** WikiDescriptor.java > > > ***** ID > > > ***** Alias > > > ***** Hidden > > > ***** Description? > > > ***** Ability to add custom data (where all will be stored) > > > **** WikiDescriptorManager.java > > > ***** getAll() > > > ***** set() > > > ***** remove() > > > ***** getByWikiAlias() > > > ***** getByWikiId() > > > ** xwiki-platform-wiki-manager (but this name conflicts with the > > previous > > > module that we put into legacy...) > > > *** WikiManager.java > > > **** createWiki() (create an empty wiki) > > > **** deleteWiki() > > > **** copyWiki() > > > ** xwiki-platform-wiki-template > > > *** WikiTemplateManager.java > > > **** setWikiAsTemplate() > > > **** unsetWikiAsTemplate() > > > **** getWikiTemplates() > > > **** isWikiTemplate() > > > > What is the rationale for 2 modules instead of one for > > xwiki-platform-wiki-manager and xwiki-platform-wiki-template? (not saying > > it's bad, just curious) > > > > Is it because you want to see template wiki as something optional? > > > > Yes, it is. Because in the future, we will have the notion of "flavors", so > we may decide to not use template wiki anymore. I wanted to have a minimal > wiki-manager module and some optional ones. > > > > > > > ** xwiki-platfrom-wiki-user (handle or not the local users) > > > *** WikiUsersManager.java > > > **** canWikiHasLocalUsers() > > > > Bad name! Suggestion: hasLocalUsers() or supportsLocalUsers() > > > > I prefer supportsLocalUsers(), because it can return true even if there is > actually no users in the wiki! > Another suggestion: hasLocalUsersSupport() - respects the has* convention for boolean methods - leaves room for a hasLocalUsers() method if we might need it Alternatives: - isLocalUsersEnabled() - hasLocalUsersEnabled() Just pick one :) > > > > > > **** setCanWikiHasLocalUsers() > > > > Ouch… Suggestion: hasLocalUsers(boolean) or supportsLocalUsers(boolean). > > > > OK. > Bad suggestion, IMO, using has* to set* something :) Try: - setLocalUsersSupport(boolean) - setLocalUsersEnabled(boolean) > > > > > > > **** getWikiOwner() > > > **** setWikiOwner() > > > **** getMembershipType() (join/invite only/ask to join) > > > **** setMembershipType() > > > **** getWikiUsers() (list of the local users + those who are > > > 'members' of the wiki) > > > > Whether the wiki accepts local users or not should be stored in the wiki > > descriptor. > > > > Since you put this in a separate module, does it mean you want to see it > > as some optional module? > > > > Yes. Someone might want to build a wiki with absolutely no notion of users. > What about the notion of members? (from workspaces) The difference is that we used rights to express members (global users with rights on the current workspace) and the entire UI talks about membership and members to a workspace/wiki. Hope this helps, Eduard > > > ** xwiki-platform-wiki-script (for script services) > > *** Wiki.java (only an helper) > > **** getDescriptor() > > **** getId() > > **** getAlias() > > **** addAlias() > > **** removeAlias() > > **** getReference() > > **** IsTemplate() > > **** setIsTemplate() > > **** getOwner() > > **** setOwner() > > **** canHasLocalUsers() > > **** setCanHasLocalUsers() > > **** getMembershipType() > > **** setMembershipType() > > **** getUsers() > > **** isHidden() > > **** setHidden() > > **** getDescription() > > **** setDescription() > > *** WikiManagerScript.java ("$services.wikimanager" but the name > > conflicts with the previous module...) > > **** getAllWikis() > > **** getHomeWiki() > > **** getWikiByAlias() > > **** getWikiById() > > **** getWikiTemplates() > > **** createWiki() > > **** deleteWiki() > > **** copyWiki() > > **** isWikiExists() > > **** isWikiNameAvailable() > > **** joinWiki()? > > **** askToJoinWiki()? > > -1. All script services should be located in the modules they wrap. > > > > So if you have 4 modules, I see 4 script services (located in a script > > package in those modules). > > > > You cannot say that the modules are optional and then have a big script > > module that contains everything. It'll obviously not work :) > > > > > Example: I don't have xwiki-platfrom-wiki-user JAR, I shouldn't be able > to > > call $services.<name>.canHasLocalUsers() > > > > > ** xwiki-platform-wiki-ui (pages for both the home AND the (sub)wikis) > > > *** … > > > > Need to verify that the UI pages are not related to a given module above. > > If so then that module should have its own UI module to make it optional. > > > > To summarize: > > * Either the modules above are optional and they need to be fully > optional > > (api, script service, UI) > > * Or they're not optional and why do we need to have so many modules? One > > would be enough (with possibly different packages though). > > > > > + write tests > > > + need a migration path > > > + in the future: > > > * Create a new wiki from a flavor: > > > ** instead of creating a wiki from a template, you give an extension ID > > > > > > If you like this proposal, I will try to implement it as close it is > > > possible, but I may change some elements to minimize dependencies. I > will > > > tell you. > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > Sounds good in general. > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

