Thanks,

2014-04-28 16:44 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>:

> On the perfs:
>
> - See also
> http://brizzled.clapper.org/blog/2012/12/12/play-framework-less-vs-sass-recompilation-performance/
> - And about Nashorn (JDK8+):
> http://houbie.blogspot.fr/2013/06/javascript-on-jvm-experimenting-with.html 
> Seems
> it doesn’t help over rhino, but maybe it’s better in Java8 final. Look at
> Rhino (optimized), it takes about 1 to 1.5s to compile bootstrap after the
> first 2 passes.
> - Now, regarding your figures, are they averages or the whole time for 100
> recompilations?
>

It's the whole time for 100 recompilations.


>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On 28 Apr 2014 at 16:22:08, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
> [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
>
> > Hi guys.
> >
> > Since we did not have made a strong analysis on SASS, I have played a bit
> > with it to compare.
> >
> > Thomas had the intuition that it should perform faster, because JRuby is
> a
> > better implementation for Ruby than Rhino is for JS.
> >
> > So I have published a little benchmark about them, that you can see
> there:
> > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/less-vs-sass-benchmark
> >
> > The benchmark is about the time that it takes to compile Bootstrap.
> >
> > The results are very clear, SASS perform 2 times faster than LESS.
> >
> > Since it seems easy to switch from LESS to SASS (bootstrap had written a
> > converter), maybe we should consider this option.
> >
> > Other thing:
> > I would like to run Velocity on the sources of my CSS, in order to easily
> > integrate the color theme variables. But it is risky to run velocity on
> the
> > whole tree of bootstrap sources (just imagine that bootstrap has an "#if"
> > ID...).
> >
> > So Thomas and I suggest that we can run Velocity on files suffixed by
> > .scss.vm or .less.vm, to only run velocity on some files (for example:
> > color-theme.less.vm) that we handle.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Guillaume
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-23 17:29 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> > [email protected]>:
> >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > In 6.0, we have released a first version of Flamingo. It uses Bootstrap
> > > and the LESS preprocessor during the build to create the final
> style.css
> > > file.
> > >
> > > But currently, there is a serious regression compared to Colibri: it
> does
> > > not support color themes.
> > >
> > > So I have started a proposal about the color theme handling in
> Flamingo,
> > > that you can see there:
> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that we need to integrate the LESS preprocesor on the
> > > runtime. This way, we can add velocity variables (corresponding to the
> > > color theme) in our LESS sources BEFORE the LESS preprocessor is
> launched.
> > > Doing the opposite, (process velocity after LESS) causes some problems
> that
> > > I have reported on the previous link.
> > >
> > > To me, it would be a good step ahead for proposing LESS to our users.
> > >
> > > Regarding this, some ideas are coming to me:
> > > - it is quite easy to integrate LESS since we can use Rhino to launch
> the
> > > LESS preprocessor (which is a javascript program). See:
> > > https://github.com/sandroboehme/lesscss-java
> > > - we need a cache system in order to not always compute the style.css
> > > served to the user (performances issue).
> > > - we need to add this in the "skin" action.
> > > - in the future, we also need to modify the skinx actions, to enable it
> > > for Skin Extensions.
> > >
> > > We also need to agree on the use of LESS instead of SASS. I have used
> LESS
> > > on Flamingo because Bootstrap has originally been written with it
> (although
> > > an official SASS port exists), so this choice is not based on a strong
> > > analysis. Anyway, it looks quite simple to move from one to the other
> and
> > > it is probably too soon to predict which of these 2 preprocessors will
> win
> > > on the long term.
> > >
> > > Do you think I am going in the right direction?
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading,
> > > Guillaume
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