On 05/06/2014 04:17 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > On 6 May 2014 at 16:11:59, Jeremie BOUSQUET > ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > >> 2014-05-06 12:40 GMT+02:00 Denis Gervalle : >> >>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:24 PM, [email protected] > > >wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On 6 May 2014 at 12:22:06, [email protected] ([email protected]) >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi devs, >>>> >>>> Our intellij IDEA ultimate license has expired. Jetbrains is ok to renew >>>> it but they wish that the xwiki project gives something more in return: >>>> they mentioned some blog post for example. >>>> >>>> So first, who’s using IDEA and would like to continue using the Ultimate >>>> version (vs the community one which is free)? >>>> I’m using IDEA Ultimate and I’m very happy with it. The community edition >>>> looks good but is missing some features like HMTL/CSS/JS support. I don’t >>>> know if I would miss those features though if I were to use the community >>>> edition. I guess I should try it… Will do now! >>>> >>> >>> I am using it as well, and I am really happy with it. It is far more easy >>> to setup than Eclipse, and it provides very nice features. The >>> auto-completions and other smart inspections of code are really nice >>> (without any performance issues), the refactoring feature is great, but >>> from the advantage of the Ultimate edition, apart from what you already >>> mention, I will miss the Coverage feature to improve my unit tests. >>> I do not really envision the idea of going back to Eclipse or Netbeans, I >>> still remember the nightmare it was. >> >> >> Hi Denis, >> Just a side note, to be honest, I don't know which version of Eclipse you >> tried, but I must say they evolved correctly. >> With recent versions (indigo), it is much easier to import your maven >> project into eclipse projects and the sync works quite well. > > Actually I just gave Eclipse Kepler (SR2) a try today and the maven > integration is a nightmare… > > When you import your pom.xml as a project (I imported only commons pom.xml) > you get lots of errors about unknown lifecycle mappings (I remember remote > resources plugin, osgi bundle plugin, enforcer plugin) and you don’t know > what to do. > > Then after all poms were imported the project was full of redcrosses (ie > errors). I looked quickly and couldn’t find the problem so I stopped and > remove Eclipse Kepler from my machine. > > I know if can be fixed and works fine thereafter (the proof is that several > xwiki committers are using it every day! :)). But this is far from easy when > you install it the first time and if you don’t take the time to google or ask > others how they’ve done it!
Same experience here. Then I tried IDEA and it was unusable on my machine due to cursor lagging behind my typing. Both of these applications took a significant amount of time to get running and configure for XWiki which is why I wrote the vague message about my concern over XWiki dev environment learning curve. This might be because I was new to IDEs and others might find that importing XWiki is trivial and quick, I don't know but I think it warrants attention. Thanks, Caleb > > Thanks > -Vincent > > PS: I don’t want to start an IDE war here, just reporting my experience of > today :) > >> The git/hg >> integration is pretty nice too. >> But I agree that IDEAJ has always been my favorite IDE (I really liked the >> inspections and the simpleUml plugin), I moved to Eclipse only for economic >> reasons - and I miss too much features in IDEAJ community edition :) >> Agree with Vincent that with Maven, developers are completely independent >> of IDEs - and it's a very good thing. >> >> >>> I will simply use the Community >>> edition until I can afford a license for the Ultimate one. JetBrains has >>> really done a great job with IntelliJ, and I will be to reward them when >>> possible (currently, it is a bit hard for me). >>> >>> >>>> Any idea of what we could do? >>>> A blog post on xwiki.org could be written, mentioning the number of >>> xwiki >>>> committers using it and providing some quotes from each devs, wdyt? >>>> >>> >>> I would surely put my quote with pleasure on such blog post, this is a nice >>> idea. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -Vincent >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
