On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First of all we need to decide how prominent we want this functionality to
> be.
> I would make it more transparent, since theoretically you should change
> your language preference just once (in the Administration, and per user)
> and all the pages should be displayed according to that preference. This
> is

not something that need to be highly visible and that you would change
> every day.


I do agree for the UI language, I absolutely not seing the content language
that way. In particular, collaboration on multilingual project really need
to easily change languages and see what is available at a glance.


> IMO it's more important to be better displayed when you want to
> create a new translation, than when you read one.
>

For this kind of purpose, I would suggest to have a simplified language
management where UI and content language are more tightly linked in view
mode, and managed from a single choice using a 1.1 UI


> Regarding the flag to represent languages you can read this comment with
> additional information about why we wouldn't do it like that
>
> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9512?focusedCommentId=77895&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-77895


I know already about that, this is what I mean by fancy. It is not only a
matter of being rigorous here but also to provide flexibility, since it
depends on purposes. As I said, it should not be standard, but it should be
feasible through extensions.

Thanks,


>
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Cathy,
> >
> > 2.1.1 is the one I prefer, 2.1.2 is also good but the separation between
> > language should be more clear, and it is less easy to see the active
> one. I
> > have no fear about the scaling issue, even heavily multilingual site like
> > those of the European Commission use such enumeration without issue. And
> as
> > Guillaume said, it is really rare to have more than a few languages
> anyway.
> > Other proposal implies multiple click/touch for the same purpose, which
> is
> > bad IMO for content. It is also important to only display effectively
> > available languages, but with an enum, it could be also good to have the
> > option to also display unavailable one greyed, so language keep their
> > location on screen.
> >
> > Regarding the UI language, 1.1 is fine, but maybe a bit large. Having
> only
> > initial in the bar would be better IMO. Having also a more fancy
> solution,
> > like what I have done with bluebird (see http://softec.lu), could be
> nice
> > to have as well... or a easy way to customize it that way with an
> > extension.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi devs,
> > >
> > > We have http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 (Improve the display
> of
> > > available languages in Flamingo) which is related to
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6402 (Separate Interface language
> and
> > > page language settings)
> > >
> > > While in Flamingo we could just make the language links look better,
> > > without changing the functionality, for the future, the separation is
> > > something we might want to tackle, that's why I've created this
> proposal
> > > page
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/InterfaceAndContentLanguageSeparation
> > >
> > > I am interested in what you think about the variants.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
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