Hi Edy, I think this was an interesting debate that deserves more discussion. I believe we never formally defined what's an "Application" in XWiki. The App Descriptor was supposed to go this way, but I don't think we ever formalized it.
One of the "stupid" issues I'm frequently meeting related to this is the name of the app as it shows up in the app bar: I'd love to have more control on how it's displayed (beyond the space name of the app). ᐧ Hoping this will spark more replies, Guillaume On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi devs, > > While thinking about XWIKI-8757 [1] and the fact that the new skin focuses > [2] a lot on applications, a number of questions pop up inevitably because > of XWiki's loose/ad-hoc way of handling/defining applications. > > For the AWM problem, I came to the conclusion that we should probably just > adapt AWM to use the current convention we have for apps (1 code space and > 1 data space) and maybe set the user that created the app as the only one > allowed to edit it (have to think about the last part). It seems that this > would be best for data-producing applications, such as the ones created by > AWM. > > I`ll list below the questions because I believe they also serve as a > summary of the discussions on the topic so far. > > 1) What is an application? > General/Philosophical > - Skin/Macro/Class/Code/etc. or just simply "Application"? > > 2) What is the name, description, icon, author, etc of an application? > Metadata > - Application descriptor > - Panel application UIX should read from an app descriptor to avoid > duplication > - Extension vs Application > -- Every (xar) extension is an application, but most applications (in the > wild or just created ones) are not extensions => EM can not reliably > provide information about applications. > > 3) How do I access an application? > Structure/Management > - UI applications (i.e. IdeasApp) vs Code/Feature applications (i.e. > ActivityStream, Syntax Highlighting) > - All apps must have 1 entry point, even if it's just some description or a > configuration? > -- You should not be able to lose an application after you install it. > > 4) What are the installed applications > Management > > 5) Where is the code, data or configuration of an application? > Structure > - ((One App = One Space) vs (One code space and one data space)) vs Reality > (messy mix) > - One page applications (no data) > > 6) What application(s) do these pages belong to? > Structure > - Using classes defined by 2 applications in the same page. > > 7) Who can(not) edit an application? > Rights > See XWIKI-8757 [1] > - most users are application users and not developers, but they are > encouraged to edit everything, even the applications themselves. This leads > to a maintainance hell for wiki admins that end up with broken > applications. > - edit rights on the code. > > 8) Who can(not) use an application? > Rights > - view rights on the code. > > > Related topics: > - Application Descriptor [3] - this discussion went off-topic > - Flamingo Application Bar [2] - application metadata is needed > - Best practices for storing Application pages [4] > > > I hope someone finds this useful somehow. > > Thanks, > Eduard > > ---------- > [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8757 > [2] http://markmail.org/thread/2ftksr6bxstazg25 > [3] http://markmail.org/thread/wqdidryh5ubgvkxa > [4] http://markmail.org/thread/467rqhucp5ild273 > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Venez nous rencontrer lors du *petit-déjeuner XWiki le mardi 7 octobre 2014 !* <http://info.xwiki.com/petit-dejeuner-XWiki-octobre-2014.html> -- <http://www.xwiki.com/>*Guillaume Lerouge* *Director of Sales & Marketing* Mail: [email protected] Mobile: *+33 6 10 79 76 70*Tel: *+33 1 45 42 40 90* _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
