On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Let me resume everything.
>
> It seems that jax-rs does not have a solution for handling list parameters
> [1] (except by using a query string, or matrix parameters, which we don't
> want). But, thanks to some hacks (example there:
> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/compare/d5f4997ddf40d70c8eef9a9ee0e9e98d767eb586...26b63f99654c90ba39c0601ee0d7c9397e1c629c)
> we can manage to do it. We might find better solution afterwards.
>
> So we have several choices:
> 1 - /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe/France/Paris/pages/WebHome  - "/"
> as separator for nested spaces
> 2 - Edouard's proposition:
> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe/spaces/France/spaces/Paris/pages/WebHome
> - with multiple "spaces/" prefix
> 3 - Vincent's proposition -
> /xwiki/rest/v2/type/page/ref/wiki:Europe.France.Paris.WebHome - the
> reference version
>
> If we want to have this in M1, options 1 and 2 are more realistic.

I don't think doing 3 is a good idea right now and this new concept
needs to be discussed more.

1 looks easier to implements and write but 2 is probably more
consistent with what we have today (plus it adds the feature of
listing the nested spaces of some space) so I'm more for 2.

>
> [1]
> http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/Passing-array-as-a-parameter-in-JAX-RS-td563656.html
>
> Thanks,
> Guillaume
>
> 2015-07-06 16:02 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > For the record, what we use in our REST api is JAX-RS, a Java API to
>> handle
>> > REST urls. We do not use Restlet directly.
>>
>> s/We do not/We are not supposed to/ ;)
>>
>> >
>> > There are several implementations of this API: Jersey (by Oracle), Apaxe
>> > CXF, etc... From what I've understood, Reslet is not a jax-rs
>> > implementation, but it provides one. This is why I had some issues while
>> > browsing the Restlet documentation, assuming it was only about JAX-RS.
>> >
>> > So actually the question is not "can Restlet handle this?" but "can
>> JAX-RS
>> > handle it?".
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> > If the answer is no, changing or upgrading our framework will
>> > not solve anything, unless we decide to stop using JAX-RS too.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2015-07-06 14:11 GMT+02:00 Jean SIMARD <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> >> Indeed, we may check.  However, in the documentation of restlet, there
>> >> is still sentences like "Note that this implementation is not final
>> >> yet." (which seems here forever) and "This extension is the result of a
>> >> (german) master thesis." which doesn't mean the work is bad but which
>> >> usually mean no maintenance after the thesis [1].  It looks like restlet
>> >> is a bit risky.
>> >>
>> >> The implementation seems not very alive on the Github account [2].
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://restlet.com/technical-resources/restlet-framework/guide/2.3/extensions/jaxrs
>> >> [2] https://github.com/restlet/restlet-framework-java
>> >>
>> >> PS: Thanks to Fabio for some information about that
>> >>
>> >> On 06/07/2015 13:58, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Mortagne
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Did you check in more recent versions of Restlet ? Ours is tarting to
>> >> >> be pretty old.
>> >> >
>> >> > (2.0.14 vs 2.3.3)
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>> I've made some experiments with Restlet. It seems there is no
>> solution
>> >> >>> out-of-the-box to handle multiple level of nesting in the URL path.
>> >> But we
>> >> >>> can actually cheat.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We can define a path with this syntax:
>> >> >>> @Path("/wikis/{wikiName}/spaces/{spaceName: .+}/pages/{pageName}")
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Here, {spaceName: .+} means that any character could be present,
>> >> including
>> >> >>> a slash.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So we can actually retrieve the spaces list as a string, like
>> "A/B/C",
>> >> that
>> >> >>> we can manually converts to "A.B.C" in our REST components.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> A working proof of concept of this (committed on a branch):
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/compare/d5f4997ddf40d70c8eef9a9ee0e9e98d767eb586...26b63f99654c90ba39c0601ee0d7c9397e1c629c
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So we can use /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/A/B/C as a valid URL.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> With the same trick, we can implement the multiple "spaces"
>> proposal:
>> >> >>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/3e83b6cf44e8
>> >> >>> it actually delegates to the component the parsing of the spaces
>> >> segments.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It might not be as clean as a proper custom router, but at least is
>> >> >>> feasible without rewriting everything.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What do you think?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2015-07-06 12:02 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
>> >> >>> [email protected]>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I am currently trying to implement the multiple spaces proposal to
>> >> see if
>> >> >>>> it is doable.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> 2015-07-03 11:52 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]
>> >:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 3 Jul 2015 at 11:48:24, [email protected] ([email protected]
>> >> (mailto:
>> >> >>>>> [email protected])) wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Just for the record, I’m -1 for the dotted solution just for
>> spaces
>> >> as
>> >> >>>>> I mentioned in the JIRA issue (
>> >> >>>>>
>> >>
>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12206?focusedCommentId=87137&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-87137
>> >> >>>>> )
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> If we want to use “dots” then I much prefer that we use the
>> >> serialized
>> >> >>>>> reference as in:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/type//ref/
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Examples:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/property/wiki:space1.space2.page^object.property
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/object/wiki:space1.space2.page^object
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/attachment/wiki:space1.space2.page@filename
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/page/wiki:space1.space2.page
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/space/wiki:space1.space2
>> >> >>>>>> /rest/v2/wiki/wiki
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I meant the following (to be self-describing):
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/property/ref/wiki:space1.space2.page^object.property
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/object/ref/wiki:space1.space2.page^object
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/attachment/ref/wiki:space1.space2.page@filename
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/page/ref/wiki:space1.space2.page
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/space/ref/wiki:space1.space2
>> >> >>>>> /rest/v2/type/wiki/ref/wiki
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>> -Vincent
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Note that this leads to shorter and simpler URLs.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>>> -Vincent
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 3 Jul 2015 at 11:20:14, Fabio Mancinelli (
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> >>>>> (mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> We should check how to declare a URI Template of the form
>> >> >>>>>>> /rest/wikis/xwiki/(spaces/SPACE)+/pages/PAGE in JAX-RS... The
>> Spec
>> >> >>>>>>> allows regexs in the URI Template defintion in @Path annotations
>> >> but
>> >> >>>>>>> this is something to be checked. I am not sure that it's that
>> >> simple.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Given the previous remark, maybe the dotted solution might be
>> >> easier
>> >> >>>>> to handle.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Of course API versioning is a very good thing to have.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>>>>> Fabio
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Initially, I wanted to go with the dots, however the backwards
>> >> >>>>>>>> compatibility problem would force us to either use a different
>> key
>> >> >>>>> than
>> >> >>>>>>>> "spaces" and deprecate "spaces" or to introduce versioning
>> (i.e.
>> >> >>>>> path
>> >> >>>>>>>> prefix like /rest/v1/wikis...), as Vincent said.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> However, the multiple "spaces" (I think this is what you meant,
>> >> >>>>> Vincent)
>> >> >>>>>>>> alternative has more (I`d say only) advantages than
>> disadvantages.
>> >> >>>>> So the
>> >> >>>>>>>> URL would be:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >>
>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe/spaces/France/spaces/Paris/pages/WebHome
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> + is 100% backwards compatible
>> >> >>>>>>>> ++ old apps will only be able to access the first level, as
>> they
>> >> >>>>> were
>> >> >>>>>>>> designed
>> >> >>>>>>>> ++ No mixup between space name (unescaped) vs space reference
>> >> >>>>> (escaped)
>> >> >>>>>>>> ++ As a result, no need to introduce any versioningjust yet
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> + indeed is much more restful, since at each step (e.g. France)
>> >> you
>> >> >>>>> can
>> >> >>>>>>>> have either subspaces (e.g. Paris) or pages (e.g. WebHome or
>> any
>> >> >>>>> other
>> >> >>>>>>>> terminal page)
>> >> >>>>>>>> ++ in other words, the resource hierarchy is better exposed
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> + Bonus, we stick to the good old "/" separator
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> + Reflects perfectly the expansion of the model that we are
>> doing
>> >> >>>>> through NS
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> +1 for dots, i.e.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe.France.Paris/pages/WebHome
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> - longer URLs for long paths
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> So I`m +1 for the "multiple spaces" option.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>>>>>> Eduard
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:14 PM, [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> I think we should decide what we want independently of the
>> REST
>> >> >>>>> framework
>> >> >>>>>>>>> impl, to be the most restful possible.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Then we check how to do it in the REST fwk we currently use
>> >> >>>>> (restlet) and
>> >> >>>>>>>>> if not possible then we should check if it’s possible with
>> some
>> >> >>>>> other REST
>> >> >>>>>>>>> fwk (jersey for example).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> At worse, if we don’t want to wait we will need at least to
>> >> >>>>> introduce API
>> >> >>>>>>>>> versioning so that we can change it later on easily.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> There’s also the suggestion I proposed with several “pages”
>> >> >>>>> elements which
>> >> >>>>>>>>> seems potentially more restful than dots to me (but leads to
>> >> >>>>> longer urls).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> So IMO you should research more about what is the RESTful
>> >> approach
>> >> >>>>> to this
>> >> >>>>>>>>> before we can decide anything.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 2 Jul 2015 at 15:57:53, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
>> >> >>>>>>>>> [email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> This proposal is already explained in
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12206. I think it is an
>> >> >>>>> important
>> >> >>>>>>>>> issue
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to fix because it blocks
>> >> >>>>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12198
>> >> >>>>>>>>> (Ensure
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> annotations work on nested spaces).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> The current REST URL for a space is:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> and for a page:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe/pages/WebHome
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> The idea is to use dots as space separator in the REST URLs
>> in
>> >> >>>>> the case
>> >> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> nested spaces. Example:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe.France.Paris
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> For spaces containing dots in their name, we simply escape
>> them
>> >> >>>>> with \
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> (%5C).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> It has the drawback to not have a similar URL than the
>> standard
>> >> >>>>> action,
>> >> >>>>>>>>> ie:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /xwiki/bin/view/Europe/France/Paris/WebHome - for view action
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe.France.Paris/pages/WebHome
>> >> >>>>> - for
>> >> >>>>>>>>> REST
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> action
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> But it does not seem possible to handle "/" in path
>> parameters
>> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Restlet.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ie:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> /xwiki/rest/wikis/xwiki/spaces/Europe/France/Paris/pages/WebHome
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> is not supported by Restlet.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> After a talk with some Restlet committers, they confirm me
>> that
>> >> >>>>> we have
>> >> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> write our own URL router to handle this. I don't know if it
>> >> >>>>> worth the
>> >> >>>>>>>>> pain
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> although I don't have evaluated it.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So I guess this proposal using dots is the best option, but
>> I'm
>> >> >>>>> free to
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> talk about this.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Guillaume
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
>> >> >>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>> >> >>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
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>> >> >>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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