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2015-09-09 12:02 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>:

> +1
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:10 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 Sep 2015 at 12:03:49, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> > [email protected](mailto:[email protected]))
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8 Sep 2015 at 11:36:37, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> > [email protected](mailto:[email protected]))
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> We expect the extensions to be well integrated into XWiki. This is
> > > >> achieved by using the *current* color theme, the *current* icon set
> > > >> and by limiting the amount of custom styles (use the styles from the
> > > >> *current* skin as much as possible). In order to make the extension
> > > >> consistent with the L&F of XWiki an extension developer will try to
> > > >> use the same icons and images she sees in the XWiki UI (default
> skin).
> > > >> This is the case with the noavatar image. Best is if the skins use
> > > >> only icons/images defined in the icon set so that extensions use the
> > > >> same images/icons.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Marius. That’s interesting but I’d put that in the best
> > practice section of the Skin Dev Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Icon Set, Color Theme are not supposed to be related to Skins (and
> > they shouldn’t be). So that’s fine.
> > > >
> > > > However, if an App uses the styles from a specific Skin, I don’t see
> > how they’ll work when the user uses another skin (and we have several on
> > e.x.o) in his wiki or when the default skin changes (imagine if all
> > extensions need new releases when a new skin is out, that’s a lot of
> work).
> > > >
> > >
> > > > What about the best practice I proposed? I couldn’t fully figure out
> > if you agreed or disagreed with it :)
> > >
> > > If the skins use custom icons/images and the extensions are not
> > > allowed to use them then they won't be well integrated. There's going
> > > to be visual inconsistency between the extensions and the skin. So I'm
> > > fine with "Do not use Skin-specific resources in
> > > Extensions/Applications" as long as we mention the alternative "use
> > > the icon set" and we make sure the skins don't use custom
> > > icons/images. For instance, currently we have a bit of inconsistency
> > > between the Glyphicons font used by the skin and the FontAwesome font
> > > used by the default icon set. A developer might inspect the HTML, see
> > > that the Glyphicons font is used in the menu and think that he should
> > > use the same.
> >
> > FTM I’ve added what’s mentioned at
> >
> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12327?focusedCommentId=87817&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-87817
> >
> > Anyone disagrees or have improved wording suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marius
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you disagree with it what would be your proposal for XWIKI-12327?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Vincent
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Marius
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > > >> > Hi devs,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Following a discussion at
> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12327#
> > I’d like to propose to add this new best practice in the App Guide, i.e.
> at
> > http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/BestPractices
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Rule: Do not use Skin-specific resources in
> Extensions/Applications
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Rationale: If you do, then your Extension/Application will only
> > work for that Skin. When the default skin in XWiki is modified, your
> > Extension/Application will stop to work fine.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Example: This is what happened in apps like in the Forum app which
> > was using: getSkinFile(“noavatar.png”) where “noavatar.png” was a
> > Colibri-skin resource only. The Forum app was broken when we moved to
> > Flamingo and the Forum app had to be modified to use
> > getSkinFile("icons/xwiki/noavatar.png”) which is better since it’s a
> global
> > resource, thus available to all Skins (see
> >
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-forum/commit/3d3a99e5665265607a41d8ce04f38c6ebb8c2d7a
> > ).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > WDYT? Anyone disagree? I’d like to clos this topic quickly so that
> > we can close XWIKI-12327.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > -Vincent
> > > >> >
> > > >> > PS: Additional idea (I don’t know if it’s feasible): I wonder if
> we
> > could even prevent getSkinFile() to return a skin-specific resource if
> the
> > originating code is not from a resource from this Skin or if the
> > originating code is not located in a Children Skin (i.e. a skin css, skin
> > jss or skin vm). i.e. consider that skin-specific resources have a
> private
> > access level.
> > > >> >
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