On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 17 Sep 2015 at 13:32:28, Eduard Moraru ([email protected](mailto: > [email protected])) wrote: > > > With the introduction of Nested Spaces / Nested Documents, we find > > ourselves having to expand our terminology to accommodate the tree-like > > structure of spaces/documents that we are managing. > > > > IMO, we have started going in the wrong direction with using standard > tree > > terminology directly in XWiki's UI, introducing new terms that simple > users > > could be easily confused by or overwhelmed (this adding to the already > > existing ones). > > > > The specific issue I have in mind is how do we refer child entities for > > each concept (wiki, space, page) and how does this scale when the > hierarchy > > increases. > > > > What I propose is that we Keep It SSimple (*™*) :) and just use the "sub" > > prefix for the concept at hand. > > > > Examples: > > * wiki -> subwiki (here we can continue using "wiki", as discussed > > previously [1], since we don`t actually support nested wikis yet, but if > > "subwiki" is used in a conversation it still makes perfect sense) > > * space -> subspace [2] > > * page -> subpage [3] > > > > The problem with the term "child", as pointed out by Marius in an offline > > chat, has indeed the issue that it can only be applied correctly for > first > > level descendants, after which it becomes inaccurate, since starting with > > the second level the term "descendant" is more appropriate. > > > > All of this becomes unnecessarily complicated and, IMO, we should avoid > > dealing with it by using the "sub" prefix which is much easier to grasp > and > > accept. > > > > On a similar note, I also find the term "nested" to be a bit > unnecessarily > > complicated, specially for non-technical and non-english native users. > > On this point, I find it nice to be able to say “Nested Spaces” and > understand what it means. > > What’s your recommendation? Saying “A Space contained inside of other > Spaces” is bit too verbose when talking about the feature. Similary saying > “A space with subspaces” or “A Space inside a Space” are too verbose too. > Actually my intent was to minimise verbosity here as well. I was simply thinking of "subspace", since it is completely equivalent (in any way) with "Nested Space" and with the above mentioned verbose alternatives. Thanks, Eduard > > Hierarchical Spaces would be another valid term but I find Nested Spaces > easier to pronounce and we’ve started using it across the board and I don’t > feel the cost of changing everywhere would justify the move to Hierarchical > Spaces :) > > In addition this is not a term used in the UI so it’s mostly an issue for > documentation (which doesn’t mean it’s not important). > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks, > > Eduard > > > > ---------- > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/cehvpds5qmljq5f7 > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspace > > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpage > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
