2015-09-30 10:58 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>: > > On 30 Sep 2015 at 10:53:48, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > I think what I like best is some option in the refactoring API to > > indicate that you want to delete only final documents in the space (so > > skipping space home page and spaces). > > That could be interesting for some use cases but it’s risky for this one. > Several apps may generate terminal pages and users could create terminal > pages in app spaces too. So that would not just remove the app technical > pages, it could remove more. >
The idea of Thomas is an option to only delete *terminal* pages located in the space with a depth of 1. Said differently, the direct and terminal children of the page. This way, you can delete all data located in the space without removing the code (because the code would be located in a deeper depth), but it works only if the app generates data as terminal pages. It is the case right now, but new apps should work differently and create their data as regular Nested Pages. That is why I don't think it's the correct way to go. We need this option: delete this page and its children *except* the "Code" page and its children. This option could be proposed by the app itself, as a "clean data" functionality. The other solution is to not change the current best practices and let the code in an other space. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > On 30 Sep 2015 at 10:28:54, Thomas Mortagne ([email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> > Hi Denis, > > >> > > > >> > On 30 Sep 2015 at 09:49:28, Denis Gervalle ([email protected](mailto: > [email protected])) wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Well, I have not yet look in details the new features for page > > >> >> manipulation, but I was wondering if there will be a simple way to > delete > > >> >> application data without deleting the application itself with the > model you > > >> >> propose ? > > >> >> I know there is already issue with that about the WebHome which > > >> >> is usually an entry point to the application, but deleting a space > was > > >> >> possible. If the code is nested under the data, isn't it an issue. > It looks > > >> >> like the opposite of the general way (not xwiki way, but in > application in > > >> >> general), where the code abstract more or less the location of the > data and > > >> >> is the "main" part. > > >> >> > > >> >> So, I am not sure actually, that this is the best way. Maybe code > and data > > >> >> should be side by side under a entry point documents ? > > >> > > > >> > You mean something like: > > >> > > > >> > MyApp > > >> > |_ Data/ > > >> > |_ Code/ > > >> > |_ WebHome > > >> > > > >> > (Instead of leaving it free for apps to decide where to put the > data they generate) > > >> > > > >> > We could indeed standardize on the location of where an app puts > the data it generates in a “Data" space. > > >> > > >> The problem with that is the forced /Data/ part of the URL which is > > >> really not nice. > > > > > > Good point, that’s a no go IMO. > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > >> > Even without this, to remove an app you’d simply remove the Code/ > space (+ the WebHome). > > >> > > > >> > So your proposal of a standardized Data directory doesn’t > contradict my proposal, it’s actually an additional proposal, so I guess > you agree about the 2 rules? (you didn’t mention anything about rule 2). > > >> > > > >> > Thanks! > > >> > -Vincent > > >> > > > >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:22 AM, [email protected] > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Ping! There’s only Thomas and Gaby who answered so far :) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thanks > > >> >> > -Vincent > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On 27 Sep 2015 at 21:19:43, [email protected] ( > [email protected]) wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Hi devs, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Following our implementation of NS/NP in 7.2 I’d like to propose > 2 new > > >> >> > best practices for app dev that we would list at > > >> >> > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDevelopmentBestPractices > > >> >> > > > >> >> > 1) New rule 1: “Code” subspace > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Current text: > > >> >> > * Generally, put all your pages in a single space dedicated for > the > > >> >> > application you're developing (e.g. Faq, Scheduler, IRC, > AppWithinMinutes, > > >> >> > etc). The name must be as short as possible while still being > > >> >> > understandable of course and without overusing abbreviations. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > New version: > > >> >> > * Generally, put all your pages in a single space dedicated for > the > > >> >> > application you're developing (e.g. Faq, Scheduler, IRC, > AppWithinMinutes, > > >> >> > etc). The name must be as short as possible while still being > > >> >> > understandable of course and without overusing abbreviations. > > >> >> > * Technical pages should be put in a subspace named “Code” > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Note: this rule can only be applied for new applications for now > since the > > >> >> > EM doesn’t know how to follow renames currently so for example > if I move > > >> >> > pages from the FAQCode space to the FAQ.Code space, when EM > upgrades the > > >> >> > app, it’ll display all pages in FAQCode as deleted (basically it > considers > > >> >> > all pages in FAQ.Code as new pages and pages in FAQCode as > deleted pages). > > >> >> > Note: I’ve created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12622 for > this. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > 2) New rule 2: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > * Technical pages without children must be terminal pages. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > WDYT? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thanks > > >> >> > -Vincent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
