On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On 06 Jun 2016, at 14:50, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Alexandru Cotiuga <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> As it was decided already, a Homepage Tour have to be implemented.
> However,
> >> no option regarding the place where the Tour Application should be
> added as
> >> dependency was discussed.
> >>
> >> There are some possible options:
> >> 1) XWiki Enterprise
> >> 2) XWiki Platform Distribution
> >> 3) XWiki Platform Helper
> >>
> >> 4) Is there any option to have the Tour Application as a part of the
> Core ?
> >>
> >> What would be the best way to include the Contrib applications in XWiki?
> >>
> >
> > On this topic (sorry if I hijack your thread) I was wondering why don't
> we
> > have dependencies from platform/enterprise to contrib. We have lots of
> > third party dependencies, contrib could be considered as such. Moreover,
> > we're in the process of moving non-core (vertical) extensions out of
> > platform to contrib. It would be a pity to move something from contrib to
> > platform and then back to contrib. I have the same issue with the
> CKEditor
> > Integration extension. We want CKEditor as the default editor, bundled
> with
> > the default distribution, but do we need to move it to platform? Same for
> > the Welcome Tour.
>
> I’d personally not like this for the following reasons:
>
>

> 1) I like that the XWiki runtime is all released at once with all
> extensions making it using the same versions and verified to work together.
>

XWiki runtime has lots of third party dependencies. Bootstrap, Solr,
jQuery, just to name a few. I don't see how having the source code in our
repo (platform) makes a difference at runtime when the
integration/functional tests verify they work together.


> 2) Support. The XWiki runtime is supported by the XWiki Core Dev Team.
> Extensions in contrib are not supported by the XWiki Core Dev Team.


So the FAQ application you moved out of platform is no longer supported by
the XWiki Core Dev Team? The extension page
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/FAQ+Application
doesn't reflect this.


> In addition xwiki-contrib is very open and anyone can make modifications
> there and quality is thus harder to guarantee.
>
> We defined the xwiki github organization as containing horizontal modules,
> ie modules that can be required for any flavor and both CKEditor and the
> Tour Application fit the need. By opposition to vertical modules which make
> sense only for some use cases (like the Meeting Manager app) and not by
> default in XE. We have the option of having flavors in contrib for those if
> we want though. For CKEditor it’s not a good thing since we’d like it by
> default.
>
> One alternative (which I’m not fond of at all) would be to have ckeditor
> as a separate git repo in the xwiki github organization.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Thanks,
> > Marius
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alex
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