On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Caty,
>
> I just sent a mail entitled "Release a bugfix version of the ratings
> application from the contrib project" about this particular project, not
> all retired projects, if you want to discuss this topic on a very specific
> use-case. This mail discusses the modification of the old project out of a
> _need_ and not "by mistake".  Preventing modifications "by mistake" would
> be yet another topic...
>
> Indeed there is a generic strategy to discuss, also in the context of what
> Eduard said below (moving projects out of platform and in contrib back
> again could make things a little bit easier...). And I don't know of the
> existance of such a strategy either.
>

I was referring to this recent discussion
http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rb5xuex3mpzg3lsm

Thanks,
Eduard

>
> Thanks,
> Anca
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Do we have a strategy for retired projects?
> >
> > They have been marked as [Retired] in JIRA, but this doesn't prevent
> users
> > from creating issues or add new code there.
> > Should we have deleted the contrib sources? Should we at least change
> > permissions and restrict creation of issues and code commits? Do we plan
> to
> > maintain in parallel the 2 repos?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Victor Rachieru <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The new module can be a new version of the one on xwiki-contrib and not
> > > break the extensions that have a dependency to the old module.
> > >
> > > The script service basically remains intact. The methods contained by
> > that
> > > service maintain the same signatures. Nothing has changed from this
> point
> > > of view.
> > > So previous versions of the ratings module (the ones from contrib) can
> > use
> > > the service just as before without it breaking things.
> > >
> > > The issue that arises from changing the package name is that any code
> > that
> > > uses classes from that package explicitly will be broken.
> > >
> > > Example:
> > > -----
> > > Say you have a java or groovy script in which you
> > > want to use a class from the ratings api package or typed variables.
> That
> > > code will be broken due to the fact that packages don't match anymore.
> > >
> > > org.xwiki.contrib.ratings.Rating myRating = new
> > > org.xwiki.contrib.ratings.Rating();
> > > or
> > > org.xwiki.contrib.ratings.RatingAPI myRating =
> > > services.ratings.getRating(doc, author);
> > >
> > > on the other hand
> > >
> > > services.ratings.getRating(doc, author).getVote(); should be ok
> > >
> > >
> > > The question is:
> > > -----
> > > Is there somebody who used classes from the api package in their code
> or
> > > the use of this module has been limited to calling the service from
> > > velocity and just setting/getting votes?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Victor
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Victor Rachieru
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hei devs,
> > > > >
> > > > > I intend to integrate the ratings application which is now on
> > > > xwiki-contrib
> > > > > into the xwiki-platform.
> > > > >
> > > > > This in mainly due to 3 points:
> > > > > -----
> > > > > 1/ give the ability to use ratings in a wiki
> > > > > 2/ using it to provide ratings for the Extension Repository
> > Application
> > > > > (XWIKI-7780)
> > > > > 3/ display ratings within Extension Manager (XWIKI-11509)
> > > > >
> > > > > The first point can be accomplished by using the ratings app as is
> > but
> > > > the
> > > > > other two imply that the ratings app should be a module that is
> > > > maintained
> > > > > by XWiki. It makes sense that if the Extension Repository App and
> > > > Extension
> > > > > Manager which are maintained by XWiki depend on the Ratings App,
> that
> > > > this
> > > > > itself is maintained by XWiki as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > The steps needed for this is as follows:
> > > > > -----
> > > > > 1/ create a new module in the xwiki-platform core for the ratings
> > > > > - xwiki-platform-core
> > > > > -- xwiki-platform-ratings
> > > > > --- xwiki-platform-ratings-api
> > > > > --- xwiki-platform-ratings-ui
> > > > > 2/ change the artifact id from "application-ratings" to
> > > > > "xwiki-platform-ratings"
> > > > > 3/ change the package from "org.xwiki.contrib.ratings" to
> > > > > "org.xwiki.platform.ratings"
> > > > >
> > > > > Implications
> > > > > -----
> > > > > 1/ clone of the existing code is now in xwiki-platform under a
> > > different
> > > > > artifact id (having duplicate code, this takes us to #2)
> > > > > 2/ the code from xwiki-contrib would probably have to be deemed as
> > > > "retired"
> > > > > 3/ the applications with a dependency to the xwiki-contrib ratings
> > > would
> > > > > have to be upgraded to depend on the module from xwiki-platform
> > > > > 4/ the script service would remain unchanged (changing the artifact
> > id
> > > > and
> > > > > package name does not affect the service)
> > > > > 5/ if by any chance someone has code that uses the classes from the
> > > > ratings
> > > > > app on contrib, by upgrading, that code will cease to function
> > > > >
> > > > > Please state you position on this matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Links
> > > > > -----
> > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Ratings+API
> > > > >
> > >
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Ratings+Application
> > > > > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ratings
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Victor
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > Either the the new module is a new version and it should keep
> > > > retro-compatibility to not instantly break all extensions using the
> > > > old app when you upgrade XWiki (but given the fact that we are not
> > > > going to keep org.xwiki.contrib.ratings package I doubt this is an
> > > > option) or we make sure the new module and the old module can run at
> > > > the same time in the same instance which means no conflicts
> (different
> > > > script service ids, different pages names when they are completely
> > > > different from old ones, etc).
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thomas Mortagne
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