I've removed the Main.Welcome page in
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13534

Thanks for your votes,
Caty

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm fine with either, 1.A.B.C or 2.
>
> I would make it hidden since the rest of gadgets on Dashboard are hidden
> (Activity, Pages, etc.) and I don't like that the tree displays the Welcome
> page.
> The main problem with the move to Dashboard is that we would need to
> change the path in l10n + deprecate somehow the translated content + find a
> suitable text to describe the interaction with the Dashboard. In this case
> the name Welcome would not be that appropriate since it will be mostly Help
> text, rather than Welcome. Also instructions on how to interact with the
> Dashboard could be provided by a Tour.
>
> So since we have some technical problems + change of purpose of the page =
> I think I am in favor of removing it. The only problem is that the
> Dashboard will look a bit empty, so we will need a proposal for it too.
>
> So +1 for 2.
>
> Current Status:
> 1. Keep it: +1 (Edy), +0.5 (Marius), +0.5 (GD) = 2
> 1.A and mark it as hidden:
> 1.B and move it to Dashboard: (Edy), (Marius), (GD)
> 1.C and change the text: (Marius), (GD)
> 2. Remove it: +0.5 (Marius), +0.5 (GD), +1 (Vincent), +1 (Anca), +1 (Caty)
> = 4
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Anca Luca <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1 for 2.
>>
>> I don't think we need a welcome message in the dashboard anymore.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Caty,
>> > >
>> > > > On 21 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> [email protected]
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > This thread is about deciding on a future for the Main.Welcome page.
>> > This
>> > > > page was used as the first gadget's content and was intended to be
>> > > modified
>> > > > by the users. In 8.2M2 we changed the content of Main.WebHome page
>> to
>> > > > provide simple wiki text instead of the Dashboard include,
>> deprecating
>> > > > somehow the purpose of the Welcome page.
>> > > >
>> > > > Problem: In the 'Navigation' panel the "Welcome to your wiki" is
>> > > displayed
>> > > > as a child page of "Home". Users might ask what is the purpose of
>> this
>> > > page.
>> > > >
>> > > > We could either:
>> > > > 1. Keep it
>> > > > 1.A and mark it as hidden: in order to not be displayed in the
>> > Navigation
>> > > > tree
>> > > > 1.B and move it to Dashboard: instead of being in the Main space,
>> since
>> > > now
>> > > > it's used only there.
>> > > > 1.C and change the text: from a generic 'Welcome' message, to
>> > > instructions
>> > > > on how to edit the Dashboard (we would need a separate proposal on
>> the
>> > > > content + if we want to display other gadgets)
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. Remove it
>> > > > We could consider that its content is deprecated by the new
>> > Main.WebHome
>> > > > page, so no need for this page. So we could delete the page +
>> remove it
>> > > > from Dashboard. Dashboard could highlight more advanced gadgets
>> > (needing
>> > > > the separate Dashboard proposal).
>> > > >
>> > > > Let me know what you think,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +1 for 2. It’s not needed anymore since it’s been replaced by the new
>> > home
>> > > page. It’s better to make the Dashboard useful right away (ie with
>> useful
>> > > content).
>> > >
>> > > Now, I haven’t checked, but if we still generate subwiki’s home pages
>> > with
>> > > the Dashboard, I believe we may also want to review this (for some of
>> the
>> > > same reasons we modified the main wiki’s home page, such as easiness
>> of
>> > > editing it) and replace it with a new subwiki home page.
>> > >
>> >
>> > When we create subwikis, they have the same content as the main wiki
>> (the
>> > new homepage and panels).
>> >
>> > Current Status:
>> > 1. Keep it: +1 (Edy), +0.5 (Marius), +0.5 (GD)
>> > 1.A and mark it as hidden:
>> > 1.B and move it to Dashboard: (Edy), (Marius), (GD)
>> > 1.C and change the text: (Marius), (GD)
>> > 2. Remove it: +0.5 (Marius), +1 (Vincent)
>> >
>> >
>> > Some questions:
>> > a. Do we have a procedure for deleting pages from l10n? a way to retire
>> > them? (some property in l10n + removal from the release script = [2])
>> > b. Do we have a procedure when the translations of a page change path?
>> > (like moving from Main space to Dashboard space = [1.B])
>> > c. Do we have a procedure for deprecating the whole content of a page?
>> > (let's say we don't do the move, we keep it in Main, how do we mark that
>> > the whole content is changed in English, but needs to be updated in the
>> > other languages? = [1.C])
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Caty
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > For me we should definitely not have some welcome message in the
>> > Dashboard
>> > > app anymore. It’s not its purpose.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > -Vincent
>> > >
>> > > > Caty
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