Hi, > On 9 Mar 2017, at 12:12, Mohamed Boussaa <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip] > If you want more, here is the details about the envision implementation: > > *Changes envisions* > > > - Remove the '*BlogType*' xproperty of the '*Blog.BlogClass*' > - Introduce a new property named '*categoriesLocation'* that contains > the location (space) of the blog categories. > - The 'categoriesLocation' property will allow sharing categories > between different blogs > - By default when a new blog is created the 'categoriesLocation' > property is initialized to a nested space 'Categories' under the blog local > space. > > for example If a Blog is created in a space '*A/*' then its ' > *categoriesLocation*' property wil be initialized to '*A/Categories/*' > > > - All blog categories will be created in this nested space ' > *<blogSpace>/Categories/*’ Note that the rationale for separate Category space is also to fix the open issue we have that categories and blog posts cannot share the same page name (see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6346). > - The *WebHome* page of the Categories space will be used as a > management page of the blog categories, the WebHome will list all the > categories of the blog and allows to edit these categories (Add, Rename, > Remove ...) > > *Backward compatibility* > > Actually the default blog installed with xwiki on the 'Blog' space is a > global blog, it mean that all Blog categories are created on the 'Blog' > space and shared with the other local blogs. > > In order to not break the actual use cases we consider that: > > > - If the 'categoriesLocation' property of a given blog is empty then > the categories of the default blog will be used (Categories created on the > 'Blog' space) > > *Changes on blog management page* > > > - Remove the 'BlogType' field > - Replace the 'Space' and 'Title' fields with a Location picker (like > when you add a new wiki page). > - A new blog cannot be created in an existing space, a verification > will be done to check if the space is a new one. > > A 'BlogClass' will be added to the WebHome page of the space > > A WebPreferences page will be added to the blog space in order to > display the blog panels You forgot one point: * Add an Admin UI for the Blog management by adding a ConfigurableClass. We also discussed about: * Macros * * Introduce a new {{blog}} macro that could be used anywhere to display the content of a blog (see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6349) * Make the blog macro be able to act as a “latest blog posts” feature by having parameters to control how many entries to display > *Registration in the Application Panel (Blogs entry points)* > > The general idea is to have a dashboard page that lists all the blogs > available in the wiki. A separate proposal will be done for the blogs > dashboard page. My proposal here is very simple (for a first version): * If there’s only 1 blog in the wiki: keep it as it now, i.e. display the posts of the main blog * If there’s more than 1 blog in the wiki: display a LT with each line being a link to a blog. * Option: instead of a LT, use the {{blog/}} macro for each blog to list the last 5 blog items. We’d just need to find a nice layout for that. I’m sure Caty would have an idea :) All the rest sounds good to me! I’m very happy to see someone working on the blog app; it’s been left untouched for too long. Thanks -Vincent > Thanks, > > Mohamed > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Mohamed Boussaa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mohamed, >>> >>>> On 2 Mar 2017, at 16:53, Mohamed Boussaa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello XWikiers, >>>> >>>> This proposal is about adding a new blog type: the isolated blog. >>>> >>>> An isolated blog is a blog that is created in a given space (local >>> blog), >>>> the blog categories and posts are created/visible only in that space. >>>> >>>> The objective of creating this separate blog type is to allow having >>>> independent blogs in the same wiki and to not break the actual blog use >>>> cases. >>>> >>>> An isolated blog is subject to following conditions: >>>> >>>> *Posts* >>>> >>>> - The isolated blog posts will be created in the local blog space >>>> - Only blog posts located in the local space will be displayed in the >>>> blog home page >>>> - Prevent the global blog to display posts from isolated blogs >>>> >>>> >>>> *Categories* >>>> >>>> - New blog categories are created into the local blog space >>>> - On the blog post form only categories located in the isolated blog >>>> space will be displayed >>>> - The 'Categories' panel display only categories located in the >>> isolated >>>> blog space >>>> - Categories from isolated blogs are not displayed in the global blog >>>> category panel >>>> >>>> *Panels* >>>> >>>> - Only display local posts in the 'recent posts' panel for isolated >>>> blogs. >>>> - Prevent isolated blog posts to be displayed in the global blog >>> 'recent >>>> posts' panel. >>>> - Only display local unpublished posts in the 'Unpublished posts' >>> panel >>>> for isolated blogs >>>> - Prevent unpublished posts from isolated blogs to be displayed at >>>> global blog 'Unpublished posts' panel. >>>> - Isolated blogs will be removed from any RSS feed but will be visible >>>> on the one matching the isolated blogs. >>>> - The 'archives' panel will not be modified because it already follows >>>> the isolated blogs conditions in the case of local blogs >>>> >>>> *How to create an isolated post?* >>>> On the Blog/Management page >>>> >>>> - Add a checkbox "Isolate this blog" >>>> - When the checkbox is checked: >>>> >>>> - Create an isolated blog in place of a local blog. >>>> - Create the default categories (News, Personal, Others) >>> into >>>> the local space >>>> >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>> >>> Sorry for not answering sooner. I see you’ve now created >>> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14076. >>> >>> I’ve just posted a comment there that I’m reposting here: >>> >>> “ >>> How do you address registration in the Application Panel or more >>> generally what are the entry points for isolated blogs? >>> >>> I remember that I made the following suggestion: >>> * When you click on the Blog entry in the Application Panel, have the >>> following: >>> ** If there's only 1 blog in the wiki, go to it (as now) >>> ** If there's more than 1 blog in the wiki, go to a blog dashboard page >>> and display the list of all blogs in the wiki (visible to the current user). >>> >> >> We did not think about how to access to the blogs, but your suggestion >> can be a good solution. >> >> >>> Note that I don't think we need an "isolated" blog type since we already >>> have the notion of a "local" blog. I can see in BlogClass: >>> >>> {noformat} >>> <values>local=Space blog (aggregates posts from its space >>> only)|global=Global blog (aggregates posts from the entire wiki)</values> >>> {noformat} >>> >>> Global means aggregating posts from the entire wiki so it doesn't make >>> sense to not aggregate posts from an isolated blog. >>> >>> So I think we could just do the following instead: >>> * Deprecate the "blogType" xproperty >>> * Introduce a new property named "scope" or "includes" that list all >>> spaces that will be taken into consideration when displaying blog posts. If >>> left empty, then the current space of the blog will be used. If "%" is used >>> then all spaces will be used (in practice the value would be used in the >>> where part of XWQL query. >>> >>> I feel this makes it all more coherent and offers more freedom. >>> >> >> The isolated blog type is not just about what blog posts to display, it >> includes also the panels content and where to create the categories. >> Actually categories are global, it means that they are created in the >> 'Blog' space. >> >> The objective of the islated blog is to be only visible on its space: >> - Isolated blog categories are created and visible only on the blog >> space >> - The categories are not visible on the post edit page of other blogs >> - The posts are not displayed on the blog index pages of the >> global/other local blogs >> - In the space of an isolated blog, the panels will display only >> posts/categories of the isolated blog >> >> >>> WDYT? >>> “ >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -Vincent >>> >>> >>
