On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
vali...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi devs,
>
> I need your input on some questions:
> 1. (Important) Where to commit Color Themes?
> 2. Where do we move old / deprecated Color Themes?
> 3. What should a Flamingo Theme contain?
>
> ---
>
> 1. Where to commit Color Themes?
>
> We have a running vote for a new default Color Theme. So where should this
> theme be committed? When considering this question think about the default
> theme, but also to the other Color Themes variations that won't be voted as
> a default.
>
> A. Platform (https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/tree/master/
> xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-flamingo/xwiki-
> platform-flamingo-themes/xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-ui)
> PRO: Being default makes sense to be committed in Platform and to not have
> a dependency towards a Contrib extension.
> CON: It will depends on an 10.x XWiki version. The themes could be used
> for any XWiki > 6.2. Having them outside Platform would allow installation
> also on older versions.
> CON: Slow release process for outside contributions
> CON: Grouped: in the current implementation they come as a package, you
> cannot install an individual module in a separate Flavor.
>
> B. Grouped on Contrib but as individual modules (example
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/color-themes/tree/
> master/color-theme-iceberg)
> CON: Grouped versioning and release process. Each theme could have its own
> component on JIRA.
> PRO: Medium contributions: The Maven / JIRA / module setup is done only in
> the beginning, but still there are technical knowledge to be known how to
> contribute a theme.
> PRO: XWiki version independent - can be installed on older instances
>
> C. Individual on Contrib (example https://github.com/xwiki-
> contrib/color-theme-iceberg)
> PRO/CON: Independent versioning and release process. Still we will be
> spammed with JIRA projects for each theme.
> CON: Slow contributions since you need to know how to create Maven
> modules, provide JIRA components for each theme, release on Nexus, always
> ask for a repo, etc.
>
> D. Individual as XARs on e.x.o
> PRO: Easy / rapid contributions: you just need to provide a XAR
> PRO: Platform version independent
> CON: Cannot be referenced as a dependency from a .pom
> CON: No blaming or versioning of sources
>
CON: We don't see the active install of individual themes


>
> ---
>
> IMO the default theme should be committed in Platform (A), but all the
> other proposals should be in Contrib either grouped (B) or individual (C).
> I prefer version B (grouped on Contrib) since the themes are very similar
> in concept and for me it doesn't justify all the independent projects on
> JIRA, etc. It would be similar to what I did for Icon Themes, see
> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/icon-themes
>
> Other notes:
> 1.1 The themes from Platform that were not default, should be made as
> extensions. This is the case for Garder, Kitty, Marina.
>
> 1.2 xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-bootswatch https://github.com/xwiki/
> xwiki-platform/tree/master/xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-
> platform-flamingo/xwiki-platform-flamingo-themes/
> xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-bootswatch should be put in Contrib, as
> extensions, since they don't relate to XWiki.
>
> 1.3 Keeping just the default in Platform is also good for Flavors. Not all
> themes work for all Flavors. Each Flavor would add the dependency they
> want. Still this means more work in selecting these themes.
>
> ---
>
> 2. Where do we move old / deprecated Color Themes?
>
> This question applies for old Color Themes. For example when we retired
> Colibri, we moved all the themes in the Attic https://github.com/xwiki-
> attic/skin-colibri/tree/master/xwiki-platform-colorthemes/xwiki-platform-
> colorthemes-ui/src/main/resources/ColorThemes even though those themes
> still worked (since we made them backwards compatible).
>
> Also the majority of themes on e.x.o are as XARs. How will we deprecate
> those?
>
> Also how do we mark themes that are not good looking anymore? Also this
> point is very subjective.
>
> I guess the answer to this question depends on what were we vote to commit
> the Color Themes.
>
> ---
>
> 3. What should a Flamingo Theme contain? (difference between Skin and CT)
>
> The Colibri Color Themes contained just colors. Now with the Flamingo
> Themes's Advanced section you could easily remove the need to have a Skin
> and add there also CSS rules, etc.
>
> The Bootswatch (xwiki-platform-flamingo-theme-bootswatch) themes are a
> very bad example, since they change quite a lot of styling and not just
> variables.
>
> I just want to enforce that default themes and especially themes that are
> provided by XWiki Development Theme should contain only variables. If there
> are things we need to override we should fix them first in the Skin, not
> just abuse the "Advanced" section capabilities and power.
>
> This is important since the changes done in the Skin apply for all the
> Themes. You don't need to duplicate the "hack" for all the themes.
>
> ---
>
> Let me know what you think.
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>

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