Stéphane,

I will start off by learning Solr Search Query API and see how I can use it
in this application.

One major concern is how we will be creating our maps. I introduced the
idea of a map editor but now it seems that we will be using queries to
generate our maps. What I have in mind after this is that the user will
create an object of Map class and then associate a query with it but I
don't know how we will get the relevant data for the map. For example if we
want a point on the map, how would we identify that we need that point. Do
we have all the relevant objects on a single page and then get all of them
from that page to display those features on the map?

Can you give a reference to an application that is similar in structure to
what we are striving for in this application? I can't help but feel like
this will lead to something of a "Map Service" rather than a "Map
Application". Sorry about all this confusion.

Maybe we can have a recorded video/audio conference as that will save us a
lot of time discussing these things. WDYT?

Best,
Fawad


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 7:44 PM Stéphane Laurière <slauri...@xwiki.com>
wrote:

> Fawad,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Regarding the data model:
>
> - Map: we clearly need a Map class :-). As discussed, it will hold the map
> configuration, and possible links to sub-configurations (such as the visual
> theme, to be discussed). Primarily, the map needs data, so it needs a field
> for storing a query that will make it possible to retrieve data. You
> certainly already found the Solr Query API documentation below, I suggest
> you give it a try and read the basic query principles, then we can set up
> dedicated examples together on real data in the next days. This brings us
> to the question of real data. We will quickly need sample data to work
> with, I think, I'm investigating how to download GeoJSON data from
> OpenStreetMap, which itself contains links to Wikidata or Wikipedia, this
> would allow us to grab some content and even images and to have a good
> sample data set to work with. I'll keep you posted about that.
>
>
> https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Solr%20Search%20Query%20API
>
> In parallel, you could start thinking about the design and implementation
> of the query endpoint that will return GeoJSON. Looking a bit into the code
> of "Main.SolrSearchMacros" could be useful I would say, I'll think about it
> as well.
>
> - Spatial entities : Point, Shape, Path, ...: I agree with you having one
> XClass for each is probably the way to go, but I would suggest we start
> just with "Point" and postpone the decision to a bit later if you agree,
> just to make sure we don't make wrong assumptions and introduce too much
> complexity (probably not, but to be discussed). Even the "icon" property
> might be too early at this stage imho, because in real world scenarios I
> believe it's more important to provide the ability to associate icons to
> facets key/value pairs than to individual items. It may be useful in the
> future, but we'll see, I would say.
>
> - Content: considering using content ids, or XPaths or XWiki DOM (XDOM)
> queries could be quite powerful. We don't want the users to maintain
> manually popup content, while they already have the burden to maintain the
> main content itself. Using content ids / queries would avoid duplicating
> content. This shares some concern with the Page Preview application, see
> links below. I don't have a clear answer yet, we need to discuss a bit
> further. But we could start with the first page paragraph for instance.
>
>   https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Page%20Preview%20Application
>   https://xwiki.markmail.org/message/zhbaw7m3rsnbm26m?q=preview
>   https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-page-preview
>
> I'll be off in the next couple of hours but I'll provide more feedback as
> soon as possible.
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Fawad Ali:
> > Hi Stéphane and Ecaterina,
> >
> > Thanks for the update to the design page. It feels much more detailed
> now imo. However it has left me confused with all the details. I was
> focused on a more straightforward approach but we need to be more detailed
> as I see it.
> >
> > I would like to know how I should move forward with what I have already
> done. Considering the kind of structure Stephane suggests for the
> application, we will have to redo it completely because I do not think what
> I did so far is suitable for such requirements.
> >
> > Let me first discuss the data model since that will be the basis of the
> application.
> > We have the main entities as Map, Point, Shape, Path and Content. I
> think it's better if we have an XClass for each of them with properties
> that will highlight the available configurations for the entities. For
> example, for the Point class, we can have properties icon, location,
> content (may be an id from a content class object?).
> >
> > Also, I am not much familiar with Solr or any of the query languages in
> XWiki since I was not going in that direction. I did try to look into Solr
> quite a bit but it would help me a lot if you could provide me an example.
> >
> > And direction on how I move from here on out would also help a lot.
> >
> > Best,
> > Fawad
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 6:14 PM Stéphane Laurière <slauri...@xwiki.com
> <mailto:slauri...@xwiki.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Caty, Fawad, all,
> >
> >
> >     [...]
> >
> >      > * I've read again the GSOC project description. The main purpose
> of the
> >      > application is to allow multiple people to create POIs and other
> shapes on
> >      > the Maps. There is a note that the POIs will have additional
> information
> >      > about the location.
> >      > Some questions:
> >      > ** can a POI be displayed in multiple Maps? For example: if we
> someone
> >      > creates a 'Centre Pompidou' POI in a page, where adds information
> about the
> >      > place, images, etc. Should we be able to display this POI in
> multiple maps
> >      > (one that contains museums, while others contain modern
> architecture)?
> >
> >     I would say it's important that a point of interest or any other
> entity can be present in multiple maps indeed. A map is defined in
> particular by a query imho – I would suggest a Solr query as argued on the
> design page,  what do you think? – which returns a set of elements. Then
> the user can refine this set at will using full-text search, facets or
> spatial search.
> >
> >      > ** in any case, the POI storage could be done in objects or in
> individual
> >      > pages. We need to think about performance too. Pages will lots of
> objects
> >      > can have performance issues, so storing as pages (that will
> contain objects
> >      > for POI type) might be better?
> >
> >     Ideally that'd be great to support both options I would say.
> >
> >     In terms of priority I would go for one object per page to start
> with. Typically, in the encyclopedia use case defined in the design page,
> having one object attached to each target page would be very convenient
> imho: it would ease the maintenance of information, both textual and
> geographical, related to each page.
> >
> >     Supporting multiple objects per page could be quite useful as well.
> Imagine for instance that we want to represent the "Battle of the Somme" on
> a map. The content itself may refer to multiple locations (as on the
> Wikipedia article below and its static image map representation), so it
> could be handy to let the user input all these locations (points, areas,
> lines...) as objects attached to the "Battle of the Somme" page itself
> without the need to create individual pages for each location. There is no
> reason to hit a very large number of objects in this scenario though. What
> do you think?
> >
> >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme
> >
> >      > * Maps will also be pages, containing configuration (custom
> backgrounds),
> >      > etc.
> >
> >     Indeed, a map page will consist of a map configuration imho. We need
> to define what is needed to configure a map, beside the query. The visual
> configuration is important as well and can be possibly complex, and other
> options could arise...
> >
> >     Stéphane
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     Stéphane Laurière
> >     XWiki – https://xwiki.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Stéphane Laurière
> XWiki – https://xwiki.com
>
>

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