On 11 Dec 2017, at 8:17, Burr Sutter wrote:

http://devopscafe.org/show/2017/6/18/devops-cafe-episode-72-kelsey-hightower.html

If you do not know about this podcast...well, take your Christmas break and listen to about 40 hours worth of content - the vast majority is amazing.

In this particular example, John (now an ex-Docker guy) talks about the
value of Docker Compose and Kelsey slams it.

Here is the 'big idea':
Kelsey continues to make the point that Kubernetes is not a PaaS and that a this kind of declarative solution must target a PaaS. My interpretation is that a specific customer must first put all the "sub-components" into their
own custom "catalog" and the declarative composition crafted by the
developer must make selections from that "catalog". There are just too many details that Kubernetes, nor a vendor can choose up front. Kelsey
rattles of a ton of them related to Redis like not just storage but
replication & clustering configuration, backup configuration, sharing
configuration, security, etc, etc. All of those details should be
established by a particular customer's IT folks and then a developer can
declarative just say "i want a Redis for my app".


This is the direction that I was looking at for Che. In addition to subcomponents the metadata also needs to include the relationships between those components. Nowadays running a lonely
container does not mean much.


Hopefully that makes sense.

Because I am now fairly certain this is the right way to go :-)

Burr


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