On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 at 16:30, Thomas Qvarnstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> Quarkus has it's own VSCode plugin. > It also has its own node, EAP and vertx features. This is about making the behaviors consistent. Ie. Vscode quarkus plug-in aren’t going to have multiple example generation like done for other runtimes. Thus it should not be about wether there are tools similar available in just one Ide - but wether it make sense to have quarkus examples for the use cases covered by the other runtimes and have that available in web, eclipse, vscode and direct api usage. > /max > > ---- > Thomas Qvarnström > Sr. Pr. Product Manager > Red Hat, Inc. > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 3:47 PM Naina Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does this mean that there are no example apps in Launcher for Quarkus. >> I believe there is.a separate plugin for Quarkus in VSCode and probably >> that is why this got overlooked. >> >> @Thomas Qvarnstrom <[email protected]> I think we should have >> Quarkus as part of the Project Initializer plugin as well. What do you >> think? >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:37 AM George Gastaldi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> That's because the plugin does the same as the "Deploy an Example >>> Application" in Launcher (which also does not feature Quarkus). See >>> https://developers.redhat.com/launch/flow/deploy-example-app >>> Quarkus is only featured in >>> https://developers.redhat.com/launch/flow/new-app and is a bit outdated. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> >>> George Gastaldi >>> >>> Principal Software Engineer >>> >>> Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com/> >>> >>> <https://www.redhat.com/> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:32 AM Jean-Francois Maury <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No, you're misreading the code. >>>> The plugin has several commands: one generic that should list all >>>> runtimes plus additional ones limited to certain runtuimes (requested by >>>> the Camel team). >>>> Look at the retrieved catalog ( >>>> https://forge.api.openshift.io/api/booster-catalog), Quarkus is not >>>> there >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:25 PM Max Rydahl Andersen < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > I think that's because the author of that extension seems to have >>>>> > hard-coded the list of available runtimes: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> https://github.com/redhat-developer/vscode-project-initializer/blob/master/src/extension.ts#L11-L16 >>>>> >>>>> That ain't good - if our primary tools accessing this assume >>>>> everything >>>>> is static makes maintenance harder :) >>>>> >>>>> Jean-Francois can you take care of open issue and get that worked out >>>>> on >>>>> the tooling side ? >>>>> I'm sure Tako will help out if there are questions about what API's to >>>>> use - but it sounds like >>>>> the code here is implemented statically and ignores any additions >>>>> available. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > PS: That plugin was not made nor maintained by the Launcher team >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:32 PM Jean-Francois Maury >>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:25 PM Christophe Laprun >>>>> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> I think (?) there used to be an api to Launcher. Is it still >>>>> >>> available? >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> Yes this is the one that's being used in Project Initializer and >>>>> >> JBoss >>>>> >> Tools Launcher wizard. But there is no Quarkus runtime there, any >>>>> >> reason >>>>> >> it's only through the Web UI ? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 11:51 AM Paul Robinson < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Thanks Max, this is great news! >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I think this was the biggest hurdle to adoption of Launcher, so >>>>> I'm >>>>> >>>> really pleased to see that the team has been able to reach >>>>> >>>> consensus on >>>>> >>>> this. The long list of names you mention attests to how >>>>> >>>> deceptively complex this change is. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:18 PM Max Rydahl Andersen >>>>> >>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Heya, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We (Naina and Max) are happy to announce that >>>>> >>>>> https://developers.redhat.com/launch/ no longer requires >>>>> >>>>> credentials >>>>> >>>>> upfront to use. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyone can now go and generate example projects and download a >>>>> zip >>>>> >>>>> using many of our middleware runtimes within seconds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They can also deploy it to OpenShift and at that moment they >>>>> will >>>>> >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>> asked for credentials. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This makes it at par with the experience you get in VSCode and >>>>> >>>>> Eclipse >>>>> >>>>> using the plugins we have. >>>>> >>>>> These plugins are utilizing the same backend launcher service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I want to thank everyone involved, Erik Jan De Wit, Tako >>>>> >>>>> Schotanus, >>>>> >>>>> George Gastaldi, Andy Damevin and Naina Singh to get this >>>>> >>>>> implemented >>>>> >>>>> and especially also Shoubhik Bose, Gorkem Ercan, Adi Sakala, >>>>> Parag >>>>> >>>>> Dave, Steve Speicher, Tiffany-Emil Jacob and Andrew Rubinger in >>>>> >>>>> helping to >>>>> >>>>> move roadblocks out of the way to make life easier for our users! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some context: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Launcher as an independent project/product is in maintenance >>>>> phase >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> will eventually retire. The work and ideas done in and around >>>>> >>>>> launcher are >>>>> >>>>> being merged/absorbed into the overall Red Hat Developer >>>>> >>>>> experience. The >>>>> >>>>> service at developers.redhat.com/launch/ is still alive and >>>>> also >>>>> >>>>> used >>>>> >>>>> by VSCode and Eclipse plugins to provide Quickstarts/Examples. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are not adding new features to it, but it is still relevant >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> keep >>>>> >>>>> the examples up-to-date. Currently, that part is not covered by >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> OpenShift Developer experience work in the Developer group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As we work together across Red Hat to improve our Developer >>>>> >>>>> Experience >>>>> >>>>> we’ll ensure things get better and more aligned. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are interested in this topic of Developer Experience from >>>>> a >>>>> >>>>> middleware perspective please post and/or signup to >>>>> >>>>> middleware-devexp >>>>> >>>>> < >>>>> https://post-office.corp.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/middleware-devexp >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> p.s. sorry for the wide net but thought this change was worth >>>>> >>>>> sharing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Naina and Max >>>>> >>>>> This mailing list is limited to Red Hat specific and product >>>>> >>>>> related >>>>> >>>>> conversations about Quarkus. For technical discussions, use >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/quarkus-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Paul Robinson >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> ENGINEERING MANAGER >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> He/Him/His >>>>> >>>> < >>>>> https://medium.com/gender-inclusivit/why-i-put-pronouns-on-my-email-signature-and-linkedin-profile-and-you-should-too-d3dc942c8743 >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com/> >>>>> >>>> <https://red.ht/sig> >>>>> >>>> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. 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