;-) Saya tahunya baru STI. Ada organisasi penampungan SEB? Tolong bagi yang tahu, saya diberi tahu.
Terima Kasih Salam, Michael S >From: "Giri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MUBI] RE: Message not approved: [Discourses_of_the_Buddha] >Re: Please help EngagedBuddhism >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:13:04 +0700 > >Bro Michael, > >Bila memang anda ingin mempromosikan SEB, apakah tidak sebaiknya seluruh >komunitas buddhis, bukan hanya satu saja? >Mengenai gerakan SEB, apakah di STI itu sudah ada dan berjalan dengan baik? >Di Indonesia yang menjalankan SEB itu siapa saja? Boleh saya tahu. > >Belakangan ini, saya sih termasuk, keributan di tempat lain dibawa2 ke >mana2. Maklum sudah pada jago2 meditasi sih, sehingga tidak ada namanya >etika, kemelekatan atas etika sudah hilang. Termasuk email ini yah, >harusnya >japri malah dibuka kemana2. > >Hahahahaha... sungguh benar2 suatu pencapaian. > > > >salam > > > >Giri > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael suswanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Bung moderator Dharmajala, kalau Anda cerdik, anda justru akan > > menyebarluaskannya. Karena dalam message itu saya mengatakan: > > > > >For one who'd like to donate, please somehow make the receiver know >that > > >the > > >donation is for schools, universities, or clinics (not for Viharas > > >in Indonesia that are already many and quite luxuriant; this part we > > >have other party's donation). > > > > [Terjemahan: Untuk orang yang ingin memberi dana (donasi), mohon >bagaimana > > caranya, buatlah si penerima mengetahui bahwa donasi ini adalah untuk > > sekolah, universitas, klinik (bukan untuk Vihara di Indonesia yang sudah > > banyak dan lumayan mewah; karena bagian ini sudah ada donaturnya >sendiri).] > > > > Jadi begini bung moderator, donasi dari donatur luar itu kan juga >akhirnya > > buat SEB (Scially Engaged Buddhism); sekolah, universitas, klinik. > > > > Dan ini "menggugah" si penerima (Sangha Theravada Indonesia) mengenai > > adanya simpati akan Socially Enggaed Buddhism (SEB) DI INDONESIA dari >luar > > negeri. > > > > Dapat dana untuk social institutions, kok ndak mau... . Kan Socially > > Engaged. > > > > Salam metta, > > Michael S > > > > >From: "dharmajala_owner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "Michael suswanto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Message not approved: [Discourses_of_the_Buddha] Re: Please >help > > >Engaged Buddhism > > >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:13:52 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Brother Michael, > > > > > >Mohon maaf message ini tidak kami approved karena milis Dharmajala > > >bukanlah sarana untuk mempromosikan satu Sangha melainkan untuk > > >mempromosikan Hidup Berkesadaran dan SEB. > > > > > >Anumodana > > > > > >Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let them also know about Indonesian Sangha: > > > > > > > > Wisma Sangha Theravada Indonesia > > > > Jl. Margasatva 9 (Depan BBC). > > > > Pondok Labu, Jakarta 12450 > > > > Telp/Fax (021) 75914315 > > > > > > > > To donate: > > > > Yayasan Sangha Theravada > > > > Bank: BCA Cabang Cikarang > > > > A/C: 343-30-0290-0 > > > > > > > > For one who'd like to donate, please somehow make the receiver know > > >that the > > > > donation is for schools, universities, or clinics (not for Viharas > > >in > > > > Indonesia that are already many and quite luxuriant; this part we > > >have other > > > > party's donation). > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > With Viriya, > > > > Michael S > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "matheesha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Subject: [Discourses_of_the_Buddha] Re: Please help Engaged > > >Buddhism > > > > >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:35:50 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Michael, > > > > > > > > > >I am very glad to hear that there are people such as yourself out > > >to > > > > >revive budhism in indonesia. Jeff is right in pointing you in that > > > > >direction. I also know that Ajhan Brhamavanso also visits > > > > >internationally in helping to spread buddhism. He was recently in > > > > >sri lanka and it sent waves through the buddhist community there. > > > > > > > > > >Sri Lanka was also in a state of ruin in terms of buddhism due to > > > > >foreign invasions and occupation and the concomitant spread of > > > > >missonary christianity. We found them building schools and churches > > > > >and converting our people. More recently they come to the land as > > > > >aid doner agencies and spread their religion along with aid. Where > > > > >there is poverty and poor education chritianity can sink its roots > > > > >in. > > > > > > > > > >But on thing changed sri lankan buddhism forever in the 1950's and > > > > >began its revival. This was the introduction of meditation from > > > > >Burma. The Burmese ambasador at the time sent us a precious gift of > > > > >dhamma in the form of Mahasi Sayadaw who eventually set up a > > > > >meditation centre in the island. It has been growing from strength > > > > >to strength since then. Having something like meditation which > > >shows > > > > >benefit here and now has become a very strong point in attracting > > >to > > > > >buddhism and there is much respect towards budhist monks from all > > > > >other religions/their people in sri lanka. another crucial factor > > > > >maybe the fact that buddhist talks are broadcast on TV and Radio > > > > >once a month on full moon days which are religious days there. This > > > > >leads to the whole population understanding the applications of > > > > >buddhism in their lives and seeing its importance and depth. > > > > > > > > > >We also have buddhist schools which were set up as a reaction > > > > >towards christian schools and also buddhist sunday school in > > >temples > > > > >where young children are sent to learn buddhism and learn values. > > > > >Buddhism is also part of the school curriculum from an early age > > >and > > > > >is there as a subject. > > > > > > > > > >Then another popular thing is the celebration of vesak/vishaka puja > > > > >which is something everyone can participate in and is great fun. I > > > > >have fond memories of vesak celebrations as a child which will > > >never > > > > >leave me. We celebrate it with orante vesak lanterns, and is > > > > >essentially a night time celebration as it is a celebration of > > > > >light -sginifying the wisdom of the buddha. > > > > > > > > > >Reviving buddhism takes money but a whole lot more in my opinion. > > > > >You are probably looking at a 50 year project at the very least, I > > > > >would suspect. But that 50 years will go faster than you can > > > > >imagine. > > > > > > > > > >So to summarise > > > > >1) Introduction of meditation possibly by inviting foreign monks > > > > >like ajhna brahmavanso and setting up a meditation centre which > > >will > > > > >serve the people there > > > > >2) making buddhism available widely :books, tapes etc in book shops > > > > >and temples, sermons over the media etc > > > > >3) setting up schools, introduction into the school curriculum, > > > > >sunday school in temples will be helpful > > > > >4) helping poor people through buddhist organisations - the temple > > > > >must become the focal point in an area - the monk must be like a > > > > >councellor to relieve the burden of people - they might even > > >undergo > > > > >proper training for it like christian priests do sometimes > > > > >5) creation of a buddhist holiday and celebrating it -media > > >coverage. > > > > > > > > > >Please do contact me if you want to talk about things. I have > > > > >proposed detailed plans to the ministry of buddhism in Sri Lanka in > > > > >reviving buddhism more in Sri Lanka so I have some experience with > > > > >this type of thing. I believe what you are setting out to do is > > >very > > > > >important. > > > > > > > > > >good luck to you! > > > > > > > > > >matheesha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Michael suswanto" > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >--- Michael suswanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Jeff, > > > > > > > > please help me to gather contacts of Viharas > > > > > > > > (temples) all around the world > > > > > > > > with the Abbot's name. Countries like Thailand, > > > > > > > > Japan, Taiwan, USA, England, > > > > > > > > Europe, Australia, etc. Little by little as what you > > > > > > > > know or what you could > > > > > > > > help, would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's for the project: the wellness of Buddhism - a > > > > > > > > Socially & Formally > > > > > > > > Engaged Buddhism on Earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > > > > > Michael Suswanto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jeffrey Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >To: Michael suswanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Please help Engaged Buddhism > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:54:37 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Michael, I would be more than happy to help you > > > > > > >reach out to the international community of Buddhism > > > > > > >for reinvigorating Asian Buddhism. However, there is a > > > > > > >wonderful international directory of Buddhist > > > > > > >resources on Buddha Net at this URL > > > > > > >http://www.buddhanet.net/ Through this directory you > > > > > > >will be able to find Buddhist Viharas all over the > > > > > > >world. I do have a directory of viharas in the USA, > > > > > > >which I would be very happy to send to you, however, I > > > > > > >will need to know what kind of format you want it in. > > > > > > >The file is currently in Filemaker Pro format. I can > > > > > > >export it in various formats. However, if you could > > > > > > >use it in its original Filemaker Pro format I believe > > > > > > >you will find it most useful. The most universal > > > > > > >format is, however, is "tab delimitated." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would be more than happy to use the computer and web > > > > > > >resources of the GWV to aid you in your endeavor. I > > > > > > >could easily send out emails to the Buddhist community > > > > > > >if you think that would help. If you would like we > > > > > > >could compose a series of messages to be sent out to > > > > > > >the Buddhist community. I have a listserv of 615 > > > > > > >Buddhist viharas in the USA. I also subscribe to 279 > > > > > > >Yahoo groups, so I could very easily broadcast your > > > > > > >message to a very large International Buddhist > > > > > > >community. Since your needs are international I could > > > > > > >also, with some time and effort, capture the contact > > > > > > >information of every vihara that is listed in the > > > > > > >Buddha Net directory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I believe the Great Western Vehicle needs some kind of > > > > > > >engaged outreach program that serves as a vehicle for > > > > > > >the betterment of all. The plight of the decay of > > > > > > >Buddhism in Asia seems like a worthy outreach program. > > > > > > > Thus I and the GWV would be more than happy to serve > > > > > > >in any way we can to reinvigorate Asian Buddhism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Our work in support of contemplatives who have arrived > > > > > > >at absorption (jhana) is our primary focus, however, > > > > > > >that community is a very small one. Because the jhana > > > > > > >community is so small I believe the Great Western > > > > > > >Vehicle needs a larger focus, that focus has been > > > > > > >defined as forging alliances between Buddhism and the > > > > > > >other religions of the world. Indonesia happens to be > > > > > > >in a rather interesting position in that Buddhism is a > > > > > > >minority there, when it was a majority religion at one > > > > > > >time. Thus Indonesia might be the perfect place from > > > > > > >which alliances between Christianity and Islam could > > > > > > >be forged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I believe what you may need to reinvigorate Buddhism > > > > > > >in Indonesia is one individual who can function as a > > > > > > >"lightning rod" to draw international attention to the > > > > > > >plight of Buddhism in Indonesia, and for that matter, > > > > > > >Sri Lanka as well. That individual would have to have > > > > > > >impeccable credentials with respect to leading an > > > > > > >ethical life. One would not want to find a champion > > > > > > >for your cause who turns out to be a self-serving > > > > > > >narcissist, or a drug addicted philanderer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I believe what Asian Buddhism is lacking is a > > > > > > >philanthropic attitude. I believe it is through > > > > > > >loving kindness (metta) that Asian Buddhism can and > > > > > > >will be able to reinvigorate itself. And, with the > > > > > > >recent tsunami relief effort one could fairly easily > > > > > > >direct that effort to the larger issue of giving Asian > > > > > > >Buddhism a philanthropic focus. What Asian Buddhism > > > > > > >does not need is a bunch of pampered monks who do not > > > > > > >work for the betterment of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Please let me know if there is anything that I can do > > > > > > >to help you reinvigorate Asian Buddhism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Kindest regards, Jhanananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > MICHAEL: > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding your question about one who's respected by the > > > > >Indonesian Buddhist > > > > > > community and leading an ethical life in Indonesia is Bhikkhu > > > > >Pannavaro Maha > > > > > > Thera - he's known internationally. But, another monk named > > > > >Bhikkhu > > > > > > Dhammasubho Maha Thera is the one who has the power (chairmonk?) > > > > >over the > > > > > > STI (Sangha Theravada Indonesia), I think. So if you are willing > > > > >to help in > > > > > > action, please send this two bhikkhu a letter, a snail mail from > > > > >USA; from > > > > > > you or some American robed monk (if you can lead one of them to > > >do > > > > >it) > > > > > > planning or concerning about Engaged Buddhism Internationally > > > > >including > > > > > > Indonesia (about the condition of Viharas with mostly no monk in > > > > >Indonesia, > > > > > > and the Formal / Social penetration of Buddhist Schools, > > > > >Universities, > > > > > > Hospitals in Indonesia). > > > > > > > > > > > > These two important monks: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhikkhu Dhammasubho Maha Thera > > > > > > Jl. Margasatwa 9, Pondok Labu, > > > > > > Jakarta Selatan > > > > > > West Java > > > > > > Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > B. Sri Pannavaro Mahathera > > > > > > Vihara Mendut > > > > > > Kotak pos 111 > > > > > > Magelang > > > > > > Central Java > > > > > > Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > Please when you send them letters, don't mention one of them in > > > > >the letter > > > > > > for each part. Meaning: in the letter intended to Dhammasubho, > > > > >don't mention > > > > > > the name of Pannavaro. Vice versa. But I think, and (I think) > > >most > > > > >people in > > > > > > Indonesia think too, Pannavaro is wiser. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > > Regarding your listserv, thank you for willing to spread my > > >letter > > > > >to > > > > > > Buddhists or people with interest of Buddhism all around the > > >world > > > > >in the > > > > > > internet via your listserv. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, I was actually going to give a bank account (for > > > > >receiving > > > > > > donation :-)) of the Centre of Buddhist Formal Education in > > > > >Indonesia, > > > > > > instead of the Indonesian Sangha (Sangha Theravada Indonesia). > > >But > > > > >I found > > > > > > out that all schools & universities are stand up on their own. I > > > > >currently > > > > > > found 33 schools (including university). Nevertheless, one > > > > >actually could > > > > > > donate the STI (Sangha Theravada Indonesia) by stating that it's > > > > >not for > > > > > > Vihara, but it is for public Buddhist schools, public Buddhist > > > > >universities, > > > > > > and public Buddhist clinics (we don't have hospitals yet). > > > > > > > > > > > > Wisma Sangha Theravada Indonesia > > > > > > Jl. Margasatva 9 (Depan BBC) Pondok Labu, Jakarta 12450 > > > > > > Telp/Fax (021) 75914315 > > > > > > Bank Account: > > > > > > Yayasan Sangha Theravada > > > > > > Bank: BCA > > > > > > A/C: 343-30-0290-0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please also add your comments before/after the message before > > > > >spreading this > > > > > > message below to your listserv: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namo Buddhaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > To Buddhist fellows all around the world, I am Michael (D.O.B: > > >28 > > > > >February > > > > > > 1985) writing from Indonesia. I was babtised and raised as a > > > > >Catholic. Now > > > > > > I'm in the middle of a religion-based-social-pattern of > > >Indonesia; > > > > > > monotheism. I used to live in Perth (Western Australia) and > > > > >regularly > > > > > > attended Ajahn Brahmavamso's dhammadesana and his monastery, I > > > > >went back to > > > > > > Indonesia last year in February and I am currently back into > > > > >Catholic > > > > > > University. It's weird that in Indonesia, outside of monotheism > > >we > > > > >are > > > > > > condemned as communist, atheist, etc (atheist is viewed bad > > >here). > > > > >It's like > > > > > > an implicit law that atheist, nontheist, and agnostic are not > > > > >allowed. It's > > > > > > due to political issue that had happened before. > > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia was called NUSANTARA (pre history). What's so called > > >now > > > > >Thailand, > > > > > > Philipine, Malaysia, .. up to South China and maybe more, WAS > > >(in > > > > >that > > > > > > pre-history time) NUSANTARA. And Nusantara was a strong and > > > > >developed > > > > > > Buddhist domain / kingdom. Borobudur Temple in Java island of > > > > >Indonesia is > > > > > > one of 7 World Wonder. We still have many pre-history temples > > > > >besides of > > > > > > Borobudur. > > > > > > > > > > > > That time, Muslim from other country (Arab or Chinese Muslim) > > > > >came. And.... > > > > > > long story. The point is; kingdoms' war, the ruin of the > > >Kingdom. > > > > >Thousands > > > > > > of Buddhists were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then western colonizer came (Portugese, Dutch) with their > > > > >missionaries > > > > > > (Christian). Dutch colonized for over 300 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Indonesia is the biggest Muslim population on Earth. > > >Secondly, > > > > >Catholic > > > > > > and Christian are quite strong in this country. They are quite > > > > >viewed > > > > > > because of strong organization. The point is, they have schools, > > > > >they have > > > > > > hospitals, and universities, especially the Catholics. They fit > > > > >(penetrate) > > > > > > into social. In Indonesia since the year 1970 - 2003, Buddhist > > > > >descendant > > > > > > decreased 50%. > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is, people (Buddhist, Buddhist descendant) became non- > > > > >Buddhist > > > > > > (and not little they become fanatics and attack back / trying to > > > > >convert the > > > > > > Buddhist tradition of their families) because of school and > > >their > > > > > > socialization. Not because they go to churches first then became > > > > >Christians, > > > > > > but it's because of schools and friends (social) -- social > > > > >paradigm of > > > > > > thinking -- then they become non-Buddhist (and not little of > > >them > > > > >are > > > > > > forgetting the family's / the ancestor's tradition; traditional > > > > >Buddhism). > > > > > > Buddhist schools/institutions in Indonesia are still very few > > >and > > > > >little > > > > > > recognized. > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue is, most people spent their `Dana' (donation) for > > >Vihara > > > > >(temple). > > > > > > Viharas (temples) in Indonesia are quite plenty, big and > > >luxuriant > > > > >with > > > > > > little people coming (and little monks, for sure). When there's > > > > >Buddhist > > > > > > events, true it's plenty people coming to the event, it's > > >because > > > > >people > > > > > > from other domain/cities are also coming. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder why many people don't have the long term vision of > > >`Dana' > > > > >(money, > > > > > > energy, effort) for Buddhist Formal Foundation such schools, > > > > >universities, > > > > > > hospitals (as a router for the Dhamma to the world/public). > > > > > > > > > > > > As I know a little about history, 'University' was first existed > > > > >in India. > > > > > > And it was Buddhist University. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know a story in Tipitaka about The Buddha visiting some > > >village > > > > >with > > > > > > diseases / the sick, dirty place ... Then The Disciples cleaned > > > > >up and took > > > > > > care of the diseases, then so The Buddha gave the Dhammadesana > > > > >(Dharma > > > > > > Talk). > > > > > > > > > > > > Through good will, I'm thinking of Socially Engaged Buddhism for > > > > >the sake of > > > > > > Buddhist evocation socially. Dharma and Viharas will > > >automatically > > > > >flow > > > > > > through it. Now, Viharas (temples) are still shining, even- > > >though > > > > >in > > > > > > Indonesia we have little people and we have most times Viharas > > > > >(temples) > > > > > > with no monk. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Suswanto > > > > > > [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Credit card. Apply now. 60 sec response. Must be over 18. 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