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Re: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server (Philippe Maechler) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:59:42 -0700 From: Chris Buxton <cli...@buxtonfamily.us> To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> Subject: Re: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server Message-ID: <e8d10cda-dde0-41c3-bf00-fd8b10c19...@buxtonfamily.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Both are active. Roughly 50% of clients will be answered by each, under normal circumstances. Chris Buxton > On Aug 15, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Roberto Carna <robertocarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear, thanks for your response...So I will review the DHCP agent as you said. > > But now I have a question: > > If both DHCP servers always receive DHCPREQUEST packets, does it mean > that in normal condition (primary and secondary server are running UP) > both DHCP servers responds these requests ??? Or only the primary > server responds the requests in despite of the secondary server is UP > too ??? > > Thanks a lot again, regards !!! > > 2018-08-15 12:38 GMT-03:00 perl-list <perl-l...@network1.net>: >> The problem isn't with the secondary server. The DHCP packets must always >> go to both servers. If the packets are relayed from a relay agent, then the >> relay agent must be configured to send to both of the DHCP servers (On a >> Cisco router, that would involve having ip helper-address listed twice, for >> example). >> >> If no relay, then the DHCP servers must both be on the same LAN with the >> clients. >> >> When both of the primary and secondary servers are running, you should see >> logs of the DHCP packets in both servers logs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roberto Carna" <robertocarn...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Users of ISC DHCP" <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:06:08 AM >>> Subject: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server >> >>> Dear people, >> >>> I?ve implemented a failover scheme with ISC-DHCP-SERVER in two >>> different servers, with the same version of the package and OS. >> >>> Everything seems to be OK, but when a execute "service isc-dhcp-server >>> stop" in the primary server, in the secondary server I can see: >> >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: peer dhcp-failover: disconnected >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: failover peer dhcp-failover: I move >>> from normal to communications-interrupted >> >>> what is correct, but after that the secondary server doesnt' receive >>> any DHCPREQUEST packet from clients. >> >>> So, my faoilover scheme doesn't work, because if primary server goes >>> down, the secondary server doesn't receive any IP request from >>> clients. When I start the isc-dhcp-server on primary server, at this >>> moment I can see the DHCPREQUEST from clients to primary server. >> >>> What can be the problem with the secondary server please ??? >> >>> Thanks a lot!!! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dhcp-users mailing list >>> dhcp-users@lists.isc.org >>> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users >> _______________________________________________ >> dhcp-users mailing list >> dhcp-users@lists.isc.org >> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users > _______________________________________________ > dhcp-users mailing list > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 16:07:50 +0000 From: <greg.ra...@bt.com> To: <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> Subject: RE: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server Message-ID: <f9144e855e7c47a6abe23c4889d2e...@tpw09926dag06g.domain1.systemhost.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Please note that it depends on the type of DHCPREQUEST packets. DHCPREQUESTs for clients in the RENEWING state will be unicast to the server that issued the lease, i.e. the primary DHCP server. DHCPREQUESTs for clients in the REBINDING state will be broadcast, and therefore should be received by both primary and failover DHCP servers. This is true for clients on the same LAN or separated by a DHCP relay. In the case of a DHCP relay, it will see the broadcast packet and (should be configured to) forward to both primary and failover. Unicast packets, of course, will not be relayed, but simply routed to the destination IP. DHCPDISCOVER packets are always broadcast. Regards, Greg Rabil -----Original Message----- From: dhcp-users [mailto:dhcp-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Chris Buxton Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:00 PM To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> Subject: Re: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server Both are active. Roughly 50% of clients will be answered by each, under normal circumstances. Chris Buxton > On Aug 15, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Roberto Carna <robertocarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear, thanks for your response...So I will review the DHCP agent as you said. > > But now I have a question: > > If both DHCP servers always receive DHCPREQUEST packets, does it mean > that in normal condition (primary and secondary server are running UP) > both DHCP servers responds these requests ??? Or only the primary > server responds the requests in despite of the secondary server is UP > too ??? > > Thanks a lot again, regards !!! > > 2018-08-15 12:38 GMT-03:00 perl-list <perl-l...@network1.net>: >> The problem isn't with the secondary server. The DHCP packets must always >> go to both servers. If the packets are relayed from a relay agent, then the >> relay agent must be configured to send to both of the DHCP servers (On a >> Cisco router, that would involve having ip helper-address listed twice, for >> example). >> >> If no relay, then the DHCP servers must both be on the same LAN with the >> clients. >> >> When both of the primary and secondary servers are running, you should see >> logs of the DHCP packets in both servers logs. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roberto Carna" <robertocarn...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Users of ISC DHCP" <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:06:08 AM >>> Subject: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary >>> server >> >>> Dear people, >> >>> I?ve implemented a failover scheme with ISC-DHCP-SERVER in two >>> different servers, with the same version of the package and OS. >> >>> Everything seems to be OK, but when a execute "service >>> isc-dhcp-server stop" in the primary server, in the secondary server I can >>> see: >> >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: peer dhcp-failover: disconnected >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: failover peer dhcp-failover: I >>> move from normal to communications-interrupted >> >>> what is correct, but after that the secondary server doesnt' receive >>> any DHCPREQUEST packet from clients. >> >>> So, my faoilover scheme doesn't work, because if primary server goes >>> down, the secondary server doesn't receive any IP request from >>> clients. When I start the isc-dhcp-server on primary server, at this >>> moment I can see the DHCPREQUEST from clients to primary server. >> >>> What can be the problem with the secondary server please ??? >> >>> Thanks a lot!!! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dhcp-users mailing list >>> dhcp-users@lists.isc.org >>> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users >> _______________________________________________ >> dhcp-users mailing list >> dhcp-users@lists.isc.org >> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users > _______________________________________________ > dhcp-users mailing list > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users _______________________________________________ dhcp-users mailing list dhcp-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 09:15:45 -0700 From: Gregory Sloop <gr...@sloop.net> To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> Subject: Re: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server Message-ID: <142198639.20180815091...@sloop.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Top posting: I think the term "fail over" causes some confusion. DHCPd in "fail-over" isn't what I'd typically think of, when I think "fail over." When I think fail-over, I think of a server that essentially does no active "work" while the primary is up and functioning - other than *getting ready* to handle the load of the primary when it goes down. Yet DHCPd fail-over is really *load-balancing* [at least in "normal" setups] with a bunch of communication between the two to handle the failure/unavailability of *either* server. Thus, in regular practice, both servers are seeing requests and answering them, and [again in "normal" setups] will have approximately half of the leases distributed to each server. HTH -Greg RC> Dear, thanks for your response...So I will review the DHCP agent as you said. RC> But now I have a question: RC> If both DHCP servers always receive DHCPREQUEST packets, does it mean RC> that in normal condition (primary and secondary server are running UP) RC> both DHCP servers responds these requests ??? Or only the primary RC> server responds the requests in despite of the secondary server is UP RC> too ??? RC> Thanks a lot again, regards !!! RC> 2018-08-15 12:38 GMT-03:00 perl-list <perl-l...@network1.net>: >> The problem isn't with the secondary server. The DHCP packets must always >> go to both servers. If the packets are relayed from a relay agent, then the >> relay agent must be configured to send to both of the DHCP servers (On a >> Cisco router, that would involve having ip helper-address listed twice, for >> example). >> If no relay, then the DHCP servers must both be on the same LAN with the >> clients. >> When both of the primary and secondary servers are running, you should see >> logs of the DHCP packets in both servers logs. >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roberto Carna" <robertocarn...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Users of ISC DHCP" <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:06:08 AM >>> Subject: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server >>> Dear people, >>> I?ve implemented a failover scheme with ISC-DHCP-SERVER in two >>> different servers, with the same version of the package and OS. >>> Everything seems to be OK, but when a execute "service isc-dhcp-server >>> stop" in the primary server, in the secondary server I can see: >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: peer dhcp-failover: disconnected >>> Aug 15 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: failover peer dhcp-failover: I move >>> from normal to communications-interrupted >>> what is correct, but after that the secondary server doesnt' receive >>> any DHCPREQUEST packet from clients. >>> So, my faoilover scheme doesn't work, because if primary server goes >>> down, the secondary server doesn't receive any IP request from >>> clients. When I start the isc-dhcp-server on primary server, at this >>> moment I can see the DHCPREQUEST from clients to primary server. >>> What can be the problem with the secondary server please ??? >>> Thanks a lot!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/dhcp-users/attachments/20180815/3822b4d2/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:19:05 +0200 From: Philippe Maechler <plcmaech...@gmail.com> To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org> Subject: Re: DHCP failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server Message-ID: <CAPhukgYJnG2-ZVt9rOU1zJ_UKk1NVE-5yVc5-mjn6s_dCW=8...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" iirc with the latest patch, only the primary server replies to clients when the split value is set to 255 Gregory Sloop <gr...@sloop.net> schrieb am Mi., 15. Aug. 2018, 18:16: > Top posting: > > I think the term "fail over" causes some confusion. > DHCPd in "fail-over" isn't what I'd typically think of, when I think "fail > over." > > When I think fail-over, I think of a server that essentially does no > active "work" while the primary is up and functioning - other than *getting > ready* to handle the load of the primary when it goes down. > > Yet DHCPd fail-over is really *load-balancing* [at least in "normal" > setups] with a bunch of communication between the two to handle the > failure/unavailability of *either* server. > > Thus, in regular practice, both servers are seeing requests and answering > them, and [again in "normal" setups] will have approximately half of the > leases distributed to each server. > > HTH > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *RC> Dear, thanks for your response...So I will review the DHCP agent as > you said. RC> But now I have a question: RC> If both DHCP servers always > receive DHCPREQUEST packets, does it mean RC> that in normal condition > (primary and secondary server are running UP) RC> both DHCP servers > responds these requests ??? Or only the primary RC> server responds the > requests in despite of the secondary server is UP RC> too ??? RC> Thanks a > lot again, regards !!! RC> 2018-08-15 12:38 GMT-03:00 perl-list <* > perl-l...@network1.net*>:* > > > > > > > > > * >> The problem isn't with the secondary server. The DHCP packets must > always go to both servers. If the packets are relayed from a relay agent, > then the relay agent must be configured to send to both of the DHCP servers > (On a Cisco router, that would involve having ip helper-address listed > twice, for example). >> If no relay, then the DHCP servers must both be on > the same LAN with the clients. >> When both of the primary and secondary > servers are running, you should see logs of the DHCP packets in both > servers logs. >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roberto Carna" <* > robertocarn...@gmail.com*>* > > * >>> To: "Users of ISC DHCP" <* > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org*>* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:06:08 AM >>> Subject: DHCP > failover doesn't receive DHCP requests in secondary server >>> Dear people, > >>> I?ve implemented a failover scheme with ISC-DHCP-SERVER in two >>> > different servers, with the same version of the package and OS. >>> > Everything seems to be OK, but when a execute "service isc-dhcp-server >>> > stop" in the primary server, in the secondary server I can see: >>> Aug 15 > 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: peer dhcp-failover: disconnected >>> Aug 15 > 11:52:01 dhcp2 dhcpd[5839]: failover peer dhcp-failover: I move >>> from > normal to communications-interrupted >>> what is correct, but after that > the secondary server doesnt' receive >>> any DHCPREQUEST packet from > clients. >>> So, my faoilover scheme doesn't work, because if primary > server goes >>> down, the secondary server doesn't receive any IP request > from >>> clients. When I start the isc-dhcp-server on primary server, at > this >>> moment I can see the DHCPREQUEST from clients to primary server. > >>> What can be the problem with the secondary server please ??? >>> Thanks > a lot!!! * > _______________________________________________ > dhcp-users mailing list > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/dhcp-users/attachments/20180815/6ee3697d/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ dhcp-users mailing list dhcp-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users ------------------------------ End of dhcp-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 10 *******************************************