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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: DHCP restart with bulk lease data (Surya Teja)
   2. Re: DHCP restart with bulk lease data (Sten Carlsen)


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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:29:19 +0530
From: Surya Teja <suryateja...@gmail.com>
To: Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk>
Cc: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: DHCP restart with bulk lease data
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I was thinking that since it leaves the .<time> file present, it may have
problems doing the file operations.
I did some experimenting, whatever way I make the files write protected,
dhcpd manages to change them back. The only thing I did not test is SELinux.
-------> Sten, can you suggest few steps to cross check on how to confirm
that would be file operations issues when it has bulk data

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:11 PM Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 13.49, Surya Teja <suryateja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Could there be issues with file permissions?
> My guess is that the temporary file written can not be renamed because
> dhcpd does not have write permissions?   ------>
> Hi Sten, I don't think it is with permission because after few minutes
> dhcpd is restarting and granting lease, the issue is it is taking long time,
>
>
> I was thinking that since it leaves the .<time> file present, it may have
> problems doing the file operations.
> I did some experimenting, whatever way I make the files write protected,
> dhcpd manages to change them back. The only thing I did not test is SELinux.
>
> In the isc dhcp forum I observed few options like  dont-use-fsync but it
> also suggest not recommended until thorough understanding OS
> I have installed the dhcpd on centos7, does any one have used this option?
> Any experience with it would be much helpful for me
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:12 PM Surya Teja <suryateja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you're doing something wrong. With a decent disk subsystem this is
>> expected to take a few *seconds* (5 - 10 seconds would be my estimate )
>> ---->
>> Hi  sthaug I don't see any disk subsystem issues, may be I am missing the
>> cases, can you please suggest the areas or commands to cross check if
>> possible?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Teja
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 5:13 PM Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 29 Oct 2019, at 11.20, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The main thing I am facing the issue is when the data is too high like
>>> >> 50-60k leases in the file, the dhcpd service restart is taking more
>>> time
>>> >> (nearly 5-6 minutes) some times nearly 10-11 mins
>>> >
>>> > If a dhcpd restart with 50 - 60k leases takes 5-6 minutes or more,
>>> > you're doing something wrong. With a decent disk subsystem this is
>>> > expected to take a few *seconds* (5 - 10 seconds would be my estimate
>>> > based on what we see here with a larger leases file).
>>>
>>> Could there be issues with file permissions?
>>>
>>> My guess is that the temporary file written can not be renamed because
>>> dhcpd does not have write permissions?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > dhcp-users mailing list
>>> > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org
>>> > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users
>>>
>>>
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:54:47 +0100
From: Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk>
To: Surya Teja <suryateja...@gmail.com>
Cc: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: DHCP restart with bulk lease data
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On 30-10-2019 11.59, Surya Teja wrote:
> I was thinking that since it leaves the .<time> file present, it may
> have problems doing the file operations.?
> I did some experimenting, whatever way I make the files write
> protected, dhcpd manages to change them back. The only thing I did not
> test is SELinux.
> -------> Sten, can you suggest?few steps to cross check on how to
> confirm that would be file operations issues when it has bulk data
What I did was to deliberately write-protect the files in various
combinations including giving the /var/lib/dhcp a new owner and write
protect it, then restart dhcpd. In my setup the file operations always
finished with no visible delay or other hickups. I was a bit surprised
as I did not expect dhcpd to be able to touch a write-protected file
that it does not own.
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:11 PM Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk
> <mailto:st...@s-carlsen.dk>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>     On 29 Oct 2019, at 13.49, Surya Teja <suryateja...@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:suryateja...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Could there be issues with file permissions?
>>     My guess is that the temporary file written can not be renamed
>>     because dhcpd does not have write permissions?? ?------>
>>     Hi Sten, I don't think?it is with permission because after?few
>>     minutes dhcpd is restarting and granting lease, the issue is it
>>     is taking long time,
>
>     I was thinking that since it leaves the .<time> file present, it
>     may have problems doing the file operations.?
>     I did some experimenting, whatever way I make the files write
>     protected, dhcpd manages to change them back. The only thing I did
>     not test is SELinux.
>
>>     In the isc dhcp forum I observed few options like??dont-use-fsync
>>     but it also suggest not recommended until?thorough understanding OS?
>>     I have installed the dhcpd on centos7, does any one have used
>>     this option? Any experience with it would be much helpful for me? ? ?
>>
>>     Thanks in advance
>>
>>     On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:12 PM Surya Teja
>>     <suryateja...@gmail.com <mailto:suryateja...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         you're doing something wrong. With a decent disk subsystem
>>         this is expected to take a few *seconds* (5 - 10 seconds
>>         would be my estimate?) ---->
>>         Hi? sthaug I don't see any disk subsystem issues, may be I am
>>         missing the cases, can you please?suggest the areas or
>>         commands to cross check if possible?
>>
>>
>>         Thanks Teja
>>
>>         On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 5:13 PM Sten Carlsen
>>         <st...@s-carlsen.dk <mailto:st...@s-carlsen.dk>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>             > On 29 Oct 2019, at 11.20, sth...@nethelp.no
>>             <mailto:sth...@nethelp.no> wrote:
>>             >
>>             >> The main thing I am facing the issue is when the data
>>             is too high like
>>             >> 50-60k leases in the file, the dhcpd service restart
>>             is taking more time
>>             >> (nearly 5-6 minutes) some times nearly 10-11 mins
>>             >
>>             > If a dhcpd restart with 50 - 60k leases takes 5-6
>>             minutes or more,
>>             > you're doing something wrong. With a decent disk
>>             subsystem this is
>>             > expected to take a few *seconds* (5 - 10 seconds would
>>             be my estimate
>>             > based on what we see here with a larger leases file).
>>
>>             Could there be issues with file permissions?
>>
>>             My guess is that the temporary file written can not be
>>             renamed because dhcpd does not have write permissions?
>>
>>             >
>>             > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
>>             <mailto:sth...@nethelp.no>
>>             > _______________________________________________
>>             > dhcp-users mailing list
>>             > dhcp-users@lists.isc.org <mailto:dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
>>             > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcp-users
>>
>
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Best regards

Sten Carlsen

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