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1. Re: Dhcpd randomly returns the IP address or the backup IP
(Wayne Gemmell | Connect)
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Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 13:45:52 +0200
From: "Wayne Gemmell | Connect" <wa...@connect-mobile.co.za>
To: Users of ISC DHCP <dhcp-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: Dhcpd randomly returns the IP address or the backup IP
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Thanks Glenn, I agree completely. if the DNS updated this wouldn't be an
issue. I'm trying to work out what is going on there but it is a bit of a
busy DNS server. I will try and isolate the traffic though.
<https://connect-mobile.co.za/mobile_marketing_solutions/>
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 01:21, <glenn.satch...@uniq.com.au> wrote:
> The on-disk leases file is just a representation of what is in memory -
> that is the true status, so as soon as it is released it would be marked
> so in the in memory copy. I don't think timing would affect that. What
> Sten says though about the history in the leases file is correct - each
> new operation is appended to the file, so you can see previous ones, at
> least for the life of the file. My understanding is that the file is
> re-written every hour to preven tit growing too large. The previous file
> remains dhcpd.leases~ so between the two you can get up to 2 hours of
> history.
>
> When a lease is released, it is marked as available. Given this
> particular client has had both IPs in the past, then the matching
> algorithm to find a new lease could come up with both possibilities.
> Without looking at the code I wouldn't know precisely how it decides
> upon a particular lease from the list of candidates. The client should
> be prepared to switch IPs upon release of the lease and subsequent
> discover. That is not the same as renewing an existing lease. I guess
> the real problem is that DNS is not being updated.
>
> Packet capture between dhcpd and the DNS server will at least show if
> updates are being sent and you can then narrow it down to a problem with
> either server.
>
> regards,
> Glenn
>
> On 2021-03-30 03:26, Sten Carlsen wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > These two addresses are both in the same pool, so nothing illegal is
> > happening. It is still odd that it sometimes gets one address and then
> > the other, this should not happen.
> >
> > Consider the leases file as a historical document, each time something
> > happens, the leases file gets added to. Once in a while it gets
> > regenerated with just the current status of all leases.
> >
> > So for this sequence of events you should be able to reconstruct what
> > happened by looking into this file.
> >
> > One thing that comes to mind is timing. The release and the discover
> > happens in the same second, so what if the server could not write to
> > the leases file before being asked about a new lease - this is not
> > extending an existing lease as the discover indicates that the device
> > does not have an address at this moment.
> >
> > Would it be possible to add a pause of a few seconds between the
> > release and the discover? at least for an experiment. If that works,
> > some timing is at the bottom of this.
> >
> > Possibly a wireshark trace could reveal the exact timing of these two
> > messages.
> >
> > The leases file snippet did also not have both addresses as active,
> > which could uncover other interesting things.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Sten Carlsen
> >
> > A pessimist is a person that can find a problem for every solution.
> >
> >> On 29 Mar 2021, at 12.05, Wayne Gemmell | Connect
> >> <wa...@connect-mobile.co.za> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sten
> >>
> >> One of the host I've been testing with in the kannel pool alternates
> >> between the following
> >>
> >> inet 10.3.2.36/16 [1]
> >>
> >> inet 10.3.2.60/16 [2]
> >>
> >> Leases look as follows. I don't really understand why each would be
> >> both free and active.
> >>
> >> Here's the log file of the responsible peer:
> >> https://pastebin.com/UP6M1Lic
> >>
> >> DHCP Lease list on responsible peer. The other one has similar data
> >> but no host names. https://pastebin.com/WX3NwkM2
> >> Here's snippet of the lease file https://pastebin.com/fKFiZpQ0
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
> >> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 19:32, Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Sten
> >>
> >> On 26 Mar 2021, at 08.43, Wayne Gemmell | Connect
> >> <wa...@connect-mobile.co.za> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Sten
> >>
> >> I've moved my class out of the subnet and the issue still persists.
> >>
> >> Well, that is one can of worms out of the picture.
> >>
> >> What are the two addresses?
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
> >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 17:51, Sten Carlsen <st...@s-carlsen.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> You define the class kannel inside the subnet, so if there are any
> >> other subnets, it will be defined there as well. Class definitions
> >> are global always, defining them inside a subnet may have some
> >> "interesting" side effects as some options are taken from that
> >> subnet even if the host gets an address in a different subnet -
> >> routers is one of them.
> >>
> >> So one thought is, if the backup address is not in this subnet, the
> >> host will be given incorrect information.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards
> >> Sten Carlsen
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy,
> >> it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a
> >> wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the
> >> frist and lsat lteter be at the rghit pclae.
> >> The rset can be a ttoal mses and you can slitl
> >> raed it wotihut porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the
> >> hmuan mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef,
> >> but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig, huh?
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> On 25 Mar 2021, at 13.01, Wayne Gemmell | Connect
> >> <wa...@connect-mobile.co.za> wrote:
> >>
> >> I tried it. No change. The issue still persists.
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 16:19, Wayne Gemmell | Connect
> >> <wa...@connect-mobile.co.za> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll give it a try, thanks.
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 01:32, Bill Shirley
> >> <b...@c3po.polymerindustries.biz> wrote:
> >>
> >> Try:
> >> update-optimization off;
> >>
> >> Bill
> >> On 3/19/2021 2:22 AM, Wayne Gemmell | Connect wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> When my dhcp server gets a DHCPRELEASE followed by a DHCPDISCOVER
> >> then it randomly allocates the IP address or the backup IP address
> >> that are assigned to the host in the lease file to the host. The
> >> assignments always got to the correct host and the mac address
> >> doesn't change.
> >>
> >> When this backup IP address is allocated then dynamic DNS isn't
> >> updated and my container is unreachable.
> >>
> >> I've put all the relevant details in the link below but am more than
> >> happy enough to furnish anything that is missing. Can anyone help
> >> please?
> >>
> >> https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/dhcp/-/issues/172 [4]
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
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> > [1] http://10.3.2.36/16
> > [2] http://10.3.2.60/16
> > [3] https://connect-mobile.co.za/mobile_marketing_solutions/
> > [4] https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/dhcp/-/issues/172
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