Yes Jim this would suit my use case, but not sure if its global enough
others can comment may be
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Jim Grace <jimgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe the most useful next step is to leave the user interface the same,
> but filter for the organisation unit assigned to the user when sending the
> messages. So for example a national user would see alerts from anywhere in
> the country, but a district user would see alerts only from within their
> district. (We probably should have done it that way in the first place!)
> Would this help?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim for the quick response.
>>
>> As we talk about the two the more I see them complicated.
>>
>> For the user role, my use case is on the Uganda national system where
>> user roles and creating users is guarded like a gold mine. Only two people
>> allowed to create roles and users though the rest of us can create user
>> groups. But for now I will ask them to create a user role with only one
>> role that can do much with the system and try it out.
>>
>> For the second one, my use case is in four districts where community
>> health workers are sending weekly maternal surveillance reports. These are
>> like over 4000 villages in level 5 on the hierarchy. I want districts at
>> level 3 to receive alerts whenever a death is reported
>>
>> So if I implement it the way it is now, I have to create 4 district
>> accounts and assign all them the alert user role. Once a death happen in
>> one district all the districts will receive the alert.
>>
>> May be as you suggest we should add hierarchy selection (level) in
>> creating the rule and if we specify sending to a given level (district,
>> region, national,...) an alert is only sent to only users assigned to that
>> level and only for that hierarchy of that orgunit.
>>
>> Example
>>
>> Uganda/Northern Region/Gulu District/Alur Soubcounty/Gulu
>> Hospital/Village A
>> Uganda/Western Region/Kibaale District/Mutoke Soubcounty/Kagadi
>> Hospital/Village W
>>
>> If death is reported from Village W and the rule was set to send to only
>> users at level 3 only users assigned to Kibaale District with the alert
>> role should receive the alert, but if level 1 is chosen then all users
>> assigned to Uganda would receive the alert.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jim Grace <jimgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You also raise a good point about sending alerts from different parts of
>>> the org unit hierarchy to different groups of users. I'm trying to imagine
>>> how this could be configured. Perhaps when you configure a validation rule
>>> group you could choose a point in the org unit hierarchy and assign a user
>>> group to be alerted for organisations at or below that point -- and then
>>> you could make similar assignments for other points in the org unit
>>> hierarchy as well. This sounds very useful to me, if a bit awkward. Can you
>>> imagine a simpler mechanism?
>>>
>>> If you can say a bit more about the use case, that also strengthens the
>>> case for a new feature. In particular, can you tell me what kinds of
>>> position(s) the users have who want to know about maternal or neonatal
>>> deaths in their district?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jim Grace <jimgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Prosper, thanks for the feedback. The role is only used to identify a
>>>> group of users, so it doesn't matter what authorities the role has. You
>>>> could create any number of otherwise dummy roles for this purpose.
>>>>
>>>> But your point is very well taken that user groups are in general
>>>> easier to set up and administer (without needing the authority to create
>>>> roles.) That's a very good suggestion for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Team and Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this validation rule type that helps us send alerts above
>>>>> set thresholds. Am planning to implement it on one of our use case -
>>>>> Maternal and Neonatal Weekly death reports. Basically I want sms sent to a
>>>>> group of users whenever a maternal or neonatal death is reported.
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all the two challenges I have are:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sending to users assigned a given user role as opposed to sending to
>>>>> users in a given group. Its easier to send to a user group as opposed to
>>>>> the current design that only allows to send to users assigned a given user
>>>>> role. First of all am not sure what different authorities this role should
>>>>> have. Secondary in a situation where I have no rights to create a user
>>>>> role
>>>>> I cant implement this like the case of Uganda national DHIS2.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would suggest we either add sending to a user group.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Ability to localize the alerts to the hierarchy; right now we can
>>>>> only send alerts to a central team otherwise it creates a lot of noise if
>>>>> we send to user of lower levels for them to be relevant. A user in
>>>>> districts B may not be interested in alerts from district C would rather
>>>>> only receive from his only district. But currently if a user in District B
>>>>> is assigned the alert role, he/she will receive alerts from all districts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>>>>> Phone: +256 414 320076
>>>>> Cell: +256 772 139037
>>>>> +256 752 751776
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
>> Phone: +256 414 320076
>> Cell: +256 772 139037
>> +256 752 751776
>>
>>
>
>
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Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
Phone: +256 414 320076
Cell: +256 772 139037
+256 752 751776
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